John Purcell makes a further reply to “Worker” post

Reply from a ‘Worker’ to the post, “Two by Twos” by someone who grew up and out of the movement.

https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/reply-from-a-worker-to-the-post-two-by-twos-by-someone-who-grew-up-and-out-of-the-movement/

If I look at the quotes here and the worker’s response, on the whole the quotes more reflect my own experience (from thirty years ago in the UK, and as far as I can tell not very much has changed since then). Mentioning the origin of the group is a big no-no; members here as far as I know are still generally unaware of it. I was always told “the meetings” have no Earthly founder, unlike other sects and denominations. People are discouraged somewhat from associating with outsiders (although I have never been shunned by my relatives in the “Truth”). Continue reading

Two by Twos, Cooneyites, Dippers and many more like ‘No Name,’ mentioned on Today with Sean O’Rourke

Southern Protestants and UCD Folklore Project
Friday 17 February 2017 12:00
Researcher Deirdre Nuttall of the National Folklore Collection and journalist and farmer from Wexford, Margaret Hawkins spoke to us this morning.

You can hear about Margaret Hawkins experience starting at 5:30 on the Report.

Then so that the public can study about them here is a link to them on our blog.

https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/category/christian/two-by-twos/
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Terrifying Freedom, a novel by Linda Smith

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Sometimes you need a novel to break through the cultist mental manipulation?

Linda Smith wrote recently,

I just read an article on your webpage regarding Catholic Lay Movements with cultist attributes. Some former members of these movements questioned why some bishops are so slow to take seriously their concerns about these organizations.

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Holy Wars a documentary contrasting the Islamist world of Khalid Kelly and the Evangelical Pentecostal Missionary Aaron Taylor

Khalid Kelly argues there is no such things as moderate or extreme Islam there is only Islam.

Palmarian Church. Moves at reform resisted

 

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Seemingly the new leader  peter wants to lift the rule of not communicating with non and ex palmarians. He seemingly has stated the Gines Hernadez (Gregory 18) had implemented very extreme and anticatholic rules. Peter (Odermatt) has focused on the communications rules and evidently wants to take a more balanced approach than Gines (who he refers to as diabolical) There is alot more news and we can see Eliseo undoing the tyranny of Gines. But one problem remains seemingly extremists inside of palmar are impeding the changes. Some of the extremists apparently have some sort of contact with Gines. We will keep you posted.

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The Palmarians: Anatomy of a Cult. No celebrity this is for real

The Anatomy of a cult. This TV programme received over a million views on broadcast.

http://www.atresplayer.com/television/programas/equipo-de-investigacion/temporada-1/capitulo-172-anatoma-secta_2016092300583.html

It is in Spanish and we hope to obtain a link to be able to watch in Ireland.

Anatomía de una secta

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In this documentary, the man who for years was known as the Pope of Palmar de Troya now complains about scandals and corruption. Gines Jesus Hernandez, speaking to the Research Team about the secrets of the Palmarian Church which openly now calls “a sect”. The programme includes the testimonies of former bishops and members of the organization, warning of the risks to children and the devotees of the Palmarians strict regime. Prosecutors are investigating issues around the absenteeism , censorship of teaching materials and the isolation of children. Anatomy of a Sect examines a faith supported for 40 years with millions of €€€€€€ in donations by thousands of the faithful scattered throughout the world. . Title: Anatomy of a sect Continue reading

Magnus Lundberg gives a magisterial account of the Palmarians. He looks for light but can only see darkness.

As our lovely couple move from one expensive location and experience to another, what we see in this former pope is a man of the world interested in having a smoke and what underpants he will wear. We know where his heart is from this particular transaction which puts him in control of the loot.

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Gines Jesus Herandez Martinez of Leaca Ban, Tooman, Lusk, Co.Dublin ARE FULL OWNERS.
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