Royal Canadian Mounted Police believe it is necessary to have an organisation in order to get workers vetted to engage with child protection.

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Here we spell out what the police told us. Please address this Workers and Friends from around the world. We called the Police in Cranbrook, BC, Canada and they were very clear that anyone who wished to work with vulnerable people must be vetted and and only an organisation can do it!

https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2018/01/31/report-on-the-2x2s-by-dialogue-ireland-with-reference-to-child-protection-and-other-issues/#more-21288

Community police services are provided by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police through a contract with the City of Cranbrook.

 

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Royal Canadian Mounted Police – Cranbrook Detachment Office
31 – 11th Avenue South
Cranbrook BC
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General Information/Requests: 250-489-3471
Website: www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/index-eng.htm

For all emergencies requiring RCMP, Fire or Ambulance services, please call 911. 

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Report on the 2X2’s by Dialogue Ireland with reference to Child Protection and other issues.

 

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https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/two-by-twos-by-someone-who-grew-up-and-out-of-the-movement/#more-6250

 

In 2012 we published a testimony of a person who grew up in the 2X2’s and it led to significant debate. Some including Evangelical Christians tended to regard the 2X2’s as a cult because they did not hold to a full statement of Evangelical belief.

This led to the focus on this issue in the publication of the very provocative book, by Irvine Grey,  “Two by Twos” The Shape of a Shapeless Movement. Continue reading

Preacher in religious sect assaulted boy

A travelling preacher in a religious sect has been jailed for a year for indecently assaulting and attempting to indecently assault a young boy, who was also a member of that sect, in the 1970s.

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The court was told Robert Noel Tanner, aged 74, Hillcrest, Crush, Glanmire, Co Cork, had assaulted the boy while he was staying at the home of the victim’s parents in the 1970s.

In sentencing the pensioner, Judge Stephen Fowler said it was a “gross breach of trust, not to mention the hypocrisy of preaching to the sect and child by doing this behind their back”.

The parents were also members of the sect and the preacher was in his early 30s when the offences occurred and the boy was in his early teens. It was customary for a preacher to stay in the homes of other members of the sect, the court heard.

At Dungannon Crown Court, the defendant, who has Parkinson’s disease, admitted both charges for the offences, which happened on dates between December 31, 1973, and January 2, 1975.

The court heard the defendant had asked the boy “at what stage does the seed start coming”.

The boy thought the preacher was referring to a religious term.

However, the defendant then touched the boy’s private parts and masturbated him.

He then told his victim not to tell anyone and he tried to abuse the boy again, when the latter was lying on the bed and reading a child’s encyclopaedia, but he was unable to do so, as the boy lay face down on the bed and the defendant was unable to turn him over.

Judge Fowler said the defendant later tried to say the boy had been reading pornography.

He wrote to the parents of the boy 10 years ago, admitting his guilt and he apologised for his actions.

Judge Fowler said it was clear the victim had suffered significantly and continued to suffer significant psychological effects.

The judge said the defendant had previous convictions in the Republic of Ireland, but his early plea had saved the victim the ordeal of giving evidence before a jury.

Judge Fowler said Tanner’s remorse was genuine and not born out of self-pity and he noted his age and his Parkinson’s disease.

In addition to a year’s jail sentence, Tanner was ordered to sign the Sex Offenders’ Register and was not allowed to be near children or vulnerable adults for a period of a year.

Pensioner jailed for year for indecently assaulting young sect member in 1970s

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Why the Truth, “2X2″‘s, NO NAME ??? can’t deliver on Child Protection

We have for some years been covering the issues related to the 2X2’s whose member Robert Noel Tanner a so called “Worker,” leader, pleaded guilty to a series of sexual assault crimes which took part in the 1970’s.

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2X2. Report of my testimony at the Truth Convention. Let us start from the very beginning, then on the other hand let’s start at the end.

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Carrick Convention Meeting Area

https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2017/06/15/no-name-2×2-dialogue-ireland-director-is-going-to-the-van-der-hum-convention-in-co-laois-june-17-20/

Having begun a process with Craig Fulton and John Delaney which you can read in the post above, I was kindly invited to go to the Convention and duly arrived last Saturday June 17. For obvious reasons the agenda we will be addressing will likely have to wait till September, but I am waiting to hear from Craig in written form how he sees this proceeding. All I asked for at this time was an acknowledgement of agreement to proceed but too date I have not received this.
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Visit to the Friends Convention, Carrick, Co Laois

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Robert and Iris Landon’s home

Written Sunday June 18:

Spending the next 3 days at the Van Der Hum Convention in Carrick, Co. Laois. The property is owned by Robert and Iris Landon. They have created a Convention Centre on an active farm. The dining space is another barn and today Sunday they must have served over 500 meals after morning service.

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I was able to talk to Robert who is originally from Glenville, Co Cork. He has cattle and barley. He is a gentle presence everywhere. The organisation by John Connolly a worker from Co. Armagh is superb. Generally the Friends like the Amish they don’t like their photograph taken. The barn where the meetings take place are generally full of barley but are transformed into a meeting space. Continue reading

NO Name, 2X2: Dialogue Ireland Director is going to the Van der Hum Convention in Co. Laois June 17-20

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I have had a lot of contact with Craig Fulton over the past month and met him with another member of the group John Delaney on Monday. We had a very fruitful conversation. We have agreed to continue discussion on a number of crucial areas. This will remain confidential until we reach agreement or if not then I will share my own observations as will no longer be bound by confidentiality.
In the meantime I am going to participate in the full Convention of the Van Der Hums from June 17 to June 20.*

The Convention will be held at a private property on a farm near Carrick, Co. Laois about 3 miles from Cullahill on the old main road to Cork and between there and Rathdowney. There is a river where baptisms occur on the property.

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Interestingly enough we are talking about Conventions and they obviously as I argue later have their origins in the Faith Mission and Irvine was a “Faith Mission Worker.” Not far from Carrick is the town of Durrow where the Faith Mission has a Centre.

http://www.faithmission.org/bible_teaching/irishmidlands.html

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*Growing up in South Africa I remember a liqueur called Van der Hum. Continue reading

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