Palmarians: New podcast makes information available in English

Robert McCormack a former Bishop in the Palmarian Church has produced a podcast that will help English speakers trying to understand what is going on.
https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/category/christian/palmarian-church/
https://anchor.fm/palmarianchurch

They have a Facebook page Palmarian ChurchMany elderly Irish people have joined and moved to Spain. There was an outbreak of Covid-19 earlier this year.

The Palmarians have not gone away

Business Post by Aaron Rogan Sunday 21st June

The Palmarians have not gone away you know. Now they are showing signs of being caught in the bureaucracy. Just over a year, this issue of the use was covered in the Sunday Times.

Here is more information about them?

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Last week the Palmarians came into focus due to the Roscommon abuse case. Read about Mena Bean Ui Chribin.

https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2015/12/05/mena-bean-ui-chribin-and-the-palmarians/

The Palmarians face a ban on saying Mass in Ireland

Sect featured in Dan Brown’s Origin faces ban on mass at Lusk house

Colin Coyle

May 12 2019,  The Sunday Times

The Co Dublin house is owned by sect leader ’Pope Peter III’

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Palmarian St Coyle

Irish members of the Palmarian church, a splinter Catholic sect that has been described as a cult, have been told to stop holding masses in a €600,000 house they bought in Lusk, Co Dublin, three years ago.

The secretive sect, which discourages members from engaging with non-followers, was served with enforcement proceedings by Fingal county council last August after the local authority discovered it was using the detached property to host masses without planning permission.

In planning documents, one of the owners of the property is listed as Joseph Odermatt the Spanishbased leader of the sect, whom Palmarians refer to as Pope Peter III.

The organisation, believed to have about 300 followers in Ireland, is the subject of novelist Dan Brown’s latest conspiracy thriller, Origin. Several family members of followers discussed being ostracised by acolytes of the sect on RTE’s Liveline in 2015. In November of that year the body of Bridget Crosbie, an 84-year-old follower of the religion, was found in the bedroom of her home in Wexford. She has been dead for at least two months. Her family claim she severed ties with them after joining the church in the late 1970s.

A planning consultant hired by the Palmarians last year defended their use of the house in Lusk for occasional masses. He argued they did not need planning because the property was largely used as a home for Fr George Albrecht and only part of the house had been turned into an oratory. He added that Albrecht used the chapel on a daily basis only for a “small number of his congregation to whom he provides pastoral care for low-profile religious worship activities”.

He said that Albrecht did say mass for a larger group of people on Sundays but that as he knew every individual who attended personally, it should be considered a private, rather than public, service. He noted there was nothing at the property or elsewhere revealing it was home to a priest or religious congregation.

Fingal county council ruled against the Palmarians. The sect subsequently appealed to An Bord Pleanala, which last week told them that planning permission was required to operate a church. They must now lodge a fresh application seeking permission to use the house as a church. If permission is refused, it could threaten the future of the sect’s Irish base.

The sect is funded exclusively by donations from followers, many of whom bequeath their homes to it. The Property Price Register shows the Lusk property, Leaca Ban, sold for €602,500 in 2016. Set on 3.5 acres with sea views, the 1980s-built house has six bedrooms and 320 sq m of living space. @colincoyle

Colin Coyle

News Editor

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Palmarians: Official Website of the Order of the Carmelites of the Holy Face in company with Jesus and Mary

There is a comprehensive attempt of the Palmarians to explain thebeliefsand hopefully it opens up the possibility of dialogue with them.

• Official Website of the
• Order of the Carmelites of the Holy Face
• in company with Jesus and Mary

ONE, HOLY, CATHOLIC, APOSTOLIC AND PALMARIAN CHURCH

The true Catholic Church of all times, founded by
Our Lord Jesus Christ
Legitimate Succession of the Cathedra of Saint Peter
Ruled by His Holiness Pope Peter III,
De Glória Ecclésiæ

We warn that this is the only official website of the One, Holy, Catholic, Apostolic and Palmarian Church, approved by the Father General of the Order of Carmelites of the Holy Face, His Holiness Pope Peter III. Any other writing on this Church which may be found on the Internet is not the work of the Holy Palmarian Church and in the majority of cases will lack any truth and will be confusing and imprecise.

https://www.palmarianchurch.org

Contact

Address

Avenida de Jerez, No. 51
41719 El Palmar de Troya,
Utrera, Sevilla, España

Postal Address

Carmelitas de la Santa Faz
Apartado 4058
41080 Sevilla, España

Email

ocsficp@gmail.com

Dan Brown and the Palmarian Church, Or What is this Thing Called Research by Magnus Lundberg?

Dialogue Ireland will not be commenting on this case until after the court case. We have already taken down any posts we wrote commenting on the defamation issue. We will publish any reference to the book but make no comment on them.

https://magnuslundberg.net/2018/09/20/dan-brown-and-the-palmarian-church-or-what-is-this-thing-called-research/

A religious group known as the Palmarian Church plays a quite prominent role in Dan Brown’s most recent book Origin (2017.)  Though Dan Brown’s Origin is a work of fiction, as in earlier works in the Robert Langdon series, he claims that the book is based on thorough research. Based on my long-time research into all things Palmarian, I have written an evaluation of the factual claims that Dan Brown makes about the Palmarian Church.

In the text, I first give a very short introduction to the history and teachings of the Palmarian Church to know what we are talking about. Then, I will say something about what “research” is or can be before I turn to my appraisal of Dan Brown’s assertions. There are statements that, indeed, are correct, while there are many claims that are wrong, half-wrong or at least very questionable. My conclusion is that there is nothing that indicates that Brown any individual research on the matter, let alone any thorough investigation, and has misunderstood several things in even the most easily available online sources.

Here you can read my text “Dan Brown and the Palmarian Church. Or What is this Thing Called Research”

Irish religious watchdog taking The Da Vinci Code publishers to High Court

https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2018/09/26/dialogue-ireland-taking-a-case-for-defamation-against-author-dan-brown/

Dialogue Ireland will not be commenting on this case until after the court case. We have already taken down any posts we wrote commenting on the defamation issue. We will publish any reference to the book but make no comment on them.