The Palmarian Catholic Church: a lie that lasted 40 years

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This article looks at the Palmarian Church mainly through the lens of psychology. Now that is a valid discipline to evaluate this Church, but we also need to look at it through the sociological and theological lens. The article on the one hand talks about the Church and then later describes it as a sect derived from Catholicism. It clearly had a self understanding that it was itself the Catholic Church and had superceded the Roman Catholic Church which it viewed as being in error.

The kind of people who joined the Palmarians here in Ireland would have been those who resisted the modernisation of the Catholic Church represented by Vatican II. Funny enough they view Paul VI positively even though he was the Pope that produced the mass in the vernacular and stopped the Tridentine Latin Mass.

His successor John Paul II is seen as an anti pope even though he was very conservative?

The Palmarians here in Ireland were opposed to the mass in English and wanted to retain the Latin. Some were Irish speakers and wished to use Latin rather than the majority English language in which the new mass was produced. Rigid dress codes were appealing to people who wanted boundaries.

This year we commemorate the the Revolutionary beginnings of the the Irish State.  It was a mixed group of socialists, Mystical Catholics who mixed up pagan notions of blood sacrifice, with the Catholic notion of the cross. After the British part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland left this part of Ireland, the Irish Free State became an extreme Catholic State. The Revolutionary Republicanism was mixed with Catholicism. In Spain the two strands were totally opposed to each other and Catholicism hated the Communists and Republicans. Franco was able to bring an authoritarian form of Catholicism to the fore. It was this mileau which appealed to the Irish as a firm authoritative and authoritarian militant Catholicism which was passing away here.

Read an interesting article by Seamus Murphy SJ entitled Dark Liturgy, outlining how this developed:

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The Palmarian Catholic Church: a lie that lasted 40 years

Former ‘Pope,’ Gregorio XVIII exposes the shady financial dealings and greed of this Spanish sect with global followers

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Further reflections of a former Educoist.

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When an ex Educoist such as myself awakens from the brainwashing spell cast by Tony Quinn and begins to write the truth concerning his Educo cult, we are viewed by other Educoists as being negative, disgruntled people who are merely seeking to blame Tony Quinn for the hardships we have faced through being unduly influenced by his so called “teachings.”  It is often said that it is our own fault that we fell under his spell of programming and hypnosis to live a materialistic lifestyle in accordance with his so called “good life” ideal.  Everyone likes to think that they wouldn’t be hypnotised in this manner, that people who are brainwashed by cults are idiots or weak minded, but you would be very wrong in thinking that.  Most of Quinn’s seminar participants were highly successful business people before meeting Tony Quinn.  Indeed a Presidential candidate for Kenya named Martha Karua attended a seminar in Monte Carlo in 2013 which I was present at. She was sent on it by Susan Morrice, an oil rich millionaire. So the people who attend these seminars are far from idiots but they are still very much human and can be manipulated just like all of us, despite their apparent outer successes in life. Continue reading

SEAN MONCRIEFF interviews Ron Miscavige about his son David.

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Moncrieff is a lively mix of phone-ins, insightful text messages and stories from around the world and down your street, every weekday from 1.30 until 4.30pm.

The only book to examine the origins of Scientology’s current leader, RUTHLESS tells the revealing story of David Miscavige’s childhood and his path to the head seat of the Church of Scientology told through the eyes of his father. Ron Miscavige’s personal, heartfelt story is a riveting insider’s look at life within the world of Scientology. Continue reading

Ray Darcy interviews Ron Miscavige about his book, Scientology, My Son David Miscavige, and Me

Scientology, My Son David Miscavige, and Me
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Ron Miscavige has written a book called Ruthless: Scientology, My Son David Miscavige, and Me. Ron escaped the clutches of the Church of Scientology under his son’s leadership in 2013 and this book is about explaining how his son came to be who is he today and he chats to Ray on his afternoon programme. Continue reading

Journeys to the Bizarre: the Basilica of Palmar de Troya by Nick Rider

Gregorio XVIII, durante su pontificado en El Palmar

Nick gives the reader a very well written and researched insight into what would normally be a dense undergrowth of confusion. He has written an update due to the bizarre and comical developments of the marriage of a pope and his move from a strict dress code to a jeans culture.

Nieves Triviño, novia del expapa

Here is the original article as we presented it:

https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2014/10/15/journeys-to-the-bizarre-the-basilica-of-palmar-de-troya-by-nick-rider/

Here is his revised article:

http://www.nick-rider.com/blog/palmar-de-troya/

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Essential Update, April 2016 –  Continue reading

The False Guru Test

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The Dalai Lama, head of the Tantric Hindu Lamaism movement holding hands               with the founder of the Aum cult in Japan.

The False Guru Test
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The False Guru test seems to have struck a cord here in the West because of the outrageous abuses and exploitation by gurus, many self-proclaimed and completely misguided. Continue reading

The “Pope” of Palmar denies having stolen the “popemobile”, “It’s mine, and is in my name”

(DIALOGUE IRELAND WOULD WELCOME ANY CORRECTION OF THE SPANISH TEXT.)

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ABC Newspaper from Seville contacted Sergio María Ginés Jesus Hernandez, who has renounced his pontificate in the Church of Santa Faz and has started a new life with a Grenadine woman Nieves Triviño.
“It is a step that I freely and voluntarily have taken. I do not believe in that at all anymore.”

http://sevilla.abc.es/provincia/utrera/sevi-entrevista-exclusiva-papa-palmar-troya-201604271214_noticia.html

 

Gregorio XVIII, durante su pontificado en El Palmar

Gregorio XVIII, when he was Pope in El Palmar – ABC

With these words he explained that it was the “pope” of El Palmar de Troya ABC de Sevilla why his resignation to pontificate and his departure from the order after 32 years of religious life.

Sergio María Ginés Jesus Hernandez, ex-seminarian and a former soldier, is starting a new life in Monachil (Granada.) He has fallen in love and is very happy with a woman  Nieves Trivedi. She is known to people and very much liked by them, because she organises parties in the City Hall where she works in Grenada.

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Nieves Trivedi girlfriend  of the Ex Pope.- ABC Continue reading

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