Society of St Pius X


I am a former member of the laity who attended Masses offered by the breakaway Catholic group, the Society of St Pius X (SSPX). This group has been established in Ireland since the 1980s. My family started attending their chapels when I was a child. I left the Society many years ago and now I look back and believe that this group is a cult or has cultic tendencies. My understanding of a cult or high demand group is that it is not defined by belief but by behaviour, that behaviour being undue influence and control over other people’s lives. It is possible that the Society of St Pius X was initially set up with good intentions but quickly became a high demand group with cultic characteristics. I wish to highlight what attracts well-meaning Catholics to this group and the control that is then exercised over many aspects of their lives. I also wish to highlight the need for a greater understanding of cultic issues and groups in Ireland by the Irish Government. There is a great need for a State funded body to provide support and advice to cult survivors, to investigate high demand cultic groups, to provide education about this topic to the general public. The Government has done great work in passing legislation making coercive control in personal relationships a crime that can be tried in court. Coercive control exercised by cultic groups must also be addressed.

Brief history of the SSPX and it’s beliefs

The SSPX is a worldwide order of priests founded by French Archbishop Marcel Levebvre on 1 November 1970. Archbishop Levebvre was a French bishop and former member of the Holy Ghost Fathers and had spent many years as a missionary in Africa. He attended the second Vatican council which took place from 1962 to 1965 but came to disagree with the reforms introduced in its wake. These reforms were intended to help the Church connect with a rapidly modernising and progressive world.  He set up a seminary in Econe, Switzerland and initially had the approval of the local bishop in Fribourg. Archbishop Levebvre gradually fell out of favour as he refused to go along with reforms of Vatican II, most noticeably no longer using the Latin Mass which had been used by the Church for hundreds of years. Instead the Church adopted the New Order of the Mass which was said in the vernacular, or the language of the local people. As Archbishop Levebvre refused to implement the reforms of Vatican II in his seminary the new bishop of Fribourg withdrew approval for the SSPX on May 6 1975. The Archbishop and his priests no longer had permission to celebrate Mass and the Sacraments. The Archbishop also no longer had permission to ordain new deacons and priests. They then officially became a schismatic group after Archbishop Levebvre consecrated four bishops without the Pope’s permission in 1988. The Archbishop decided to take this step after talks with Rome about providing the SSPX with a bishop to ordain its priests after he himself had passed on had broken down. He believed that any bishop provided by Rome at that point would not be conservative or traditional enough. He called the consecration of the bishops without the Pope’s permission “Operation Survival.” He believed that he was literally preserving the Catholic Faith against heresy. The Pope then excommunicated him and the four bishops. Archbishop Levebvre died three years later in 1991. He was still under excommunication at the time of his death and this has never been revoked. The SSPX has always argued that these excommunications were unjust and that canon law allowed for a “state of emergency” which justified consecrating bishops without the Pope’s permission. Pope Benedict XVI lifted the excommunications in 2009 in an attempt to bring the SSPX back into the Catholic Church. They are still canonically irregular and outside the mainstream Catholic Church to the present day.

Today the SSPX is still one of the most prominent priestly orders of what became known as Traditional Catholicism, or pre-Vatican II Catholicism. It has spread all over the world and regards itself as an international priestly order. There are many groups that celebrate Mass and the sacraments as they were before Vatican II. These groups accept the teachings of Vatican II and are in good standing in the Catholic Church. There are also many local diocesan Latin Masses allowed by bishops all over the world. There are other Traditional Catholic orders of priests who are not recognised by the Catholic Church and do not believe that there is currently a pope in Rome. These various groups are known as sedevecantists and don’t believe that a Pope who promotes the “errors” of Vatican II can really be Pope. They hold strictly to pre-Vatican II teachings and the Latin Mass and believe that the last valid pope was Pius XII. The Palmarians are a group influenced by pre-Vatican II teachings and ceremonies but have their own Pope. There are many more Traditional Catholic groups of all beliefs and positions providing the Latin Mass to the laity both inside and outside the official Catholic Church, and they mostly disagree with each other’s positions. Some of these other groups can also be found in Ireland.

The SSPX disagrees with most of these other groups and believes itself to hold the only correct position. They disagree with Vatican II in its entirety but at the same time they say that they recognise the Pope really is the Pope and profess their loyalty to him. They then say that they must disobey him in any matters where he is “teaching errors” against the Catholic Faith which according to them crept into the Church after Vatican II.  Archbishop Levebvre used to call this “True Obedience” and “False Obedience”. Using this argument the SSPX portrays itself as being balanced between what they see as the extremes of Vatican II and sedevecantism. Archbishop Levebvre taught that the error of “Modernism” was taught in the Catholic Church through Vatican II. Modernism attempted to re-interpret Catholic teaching in a way that would reconcile it to the modern world, with many non-Catholic influences. Pope Pius X condemned Modernism in an encyclical he wrote in 1907 called Pascendi Dominici Gregis. In this encyclical he referred to Modernism as “the synthesis of all heresies”. It is not difficult to see why Archbishop Levebvre named his order of priests after this Pope.

The Mass

The Archbishop saw any reforms brought in by Vatican II as fundamentally changing the formulas of the Mass and the Sacraments, thereby bringing their validity, or their ability to transmit “God’s grace” into a person’s soul, into question. The “Grace of God” is taught to be essential to help a person to be good and go to Heaven. Salvation is impossible without it.

Previously Mass had been celebrated in Latin with the priest with his back to the people. The Mass was taught to be actual re-enactment of Christ’s death on the cross which was the price for our sins and the original sin passed onto every human being from Adam and Eve. The priest and the people were facing towards God together with the priest interceding for the laity.

The Second Vatican Council brought in the New Order of the Mass also know in Latin as the Novus Ordo Missae. The Mass was now celebrated in the local language with the priest facing the people. Lay people were encouraged to participate in the Mass by doing readings or being Ministers of the Eucharist giving out Holy Communion. The SSPX strictly opposes these reforms and considers lay participation in the Mass sacrilegious. The priest is viewed as being transformed into “another Christ” by the sacrament of Holy Orders. It leaves a special mark on his soul which makes him the only one worthy to touch the Blessed Sacrament. Lay people must kneel at altar rails to receive Holy Communion at SSPX churches. Communion in the hand is not allowed and must be received on the tongue.

The SSPX teaches that the Mass celebrated in the vernacular is not just a direct translation from the Latin but that a lot of the wording itself has been changed. This is viewed as very problematic because having the wording fundamentally changed brings the consecration of the hosts into the body and blood of Christ into question

The Sacraments

The validity of the other sacraments such as Holy Orders (ordination of priests) and Confirmation are also called into question by the SSPX as the form or wording was also changed after Vatican II. The SSPX teach its parishioners that priests ordained using the newer form of Holy Orders may possibly not be ordained at all. Any priests who leave the mainstream Catholic Church to join the SSPX must be “conditionally” ordained by an SSPX bishop. Any lay people who received Confirmation in the mainstream Catholic Church using the newer form of the sacrament are also advised to receive “conditional” Confirmation. It is common to see many teenagers or adults who begin to attend SSPX masses to receive conditional Confirmation.

Undue influence and control

The faithful are convinced by the SSPX’s convoluted and legalistic arguments surrounding doctrine, the liturgy, the sacraments and the excommunications. They are charmed by the elaborate and reverent ceremonies that are part of the pre Vatican II Mass and sacraments. There is an unhealthy and over the top reverence for the priests as representatives of God, “other Christs”, who have special power from their ordinations to provide Mass and the sacraments, the only source of God’s grace. This provides them with a powerful psychological hold over the laity. Some priests who may have controlling or narcissistic tendencies are therefore in positions of authority over the faithful. However, there are many genuinely good priests in the SSPX who are just trying to live their faith as best they can and work hard in their missions and mass centres.

The SSPX is very misogynistic. It promotes teachings that a woman’s place is in the home, that the husband is the head of the family and is to be obeyed. A woman’s main duty is to be a child bearer and mother. She can’t have a career outside the home if she is married and has children. Women attending society chapels are strictly indoctrinated regarding dressing modestly and in a feminine manner. Women must wear skirts below the knees, tops that aren’t too low and that have sleeves that cover at least the shoulder. In general clothes can’t be too tight, see through or revealing. If a woman doesn’t dress modestly, she may tempt a man to sinful thoughts. Women must cover their head at Mass in order to show respect to the Blessed Sacrament in the church. They can wear a scarf, hat or a lacy head covering called a mantilla. The men must have to have their heads uncovered in the church. The symbolism behind this is that men are under the authority of God and women are under the authority of men. Women can’t be altar girls. Women can’t enter the sanctuary (the area around the altar enclosed by altar rails) unless for cleaning purposes. The laity in general are not allowed to enter the sanctuary without a good reason. For example, men can only enter to serve mass or for altar serving practice. The level of misogyny varies between families and chapels in different countries.

The private lives of families and individuals are controlled by strict teachings regarding morality. Married couples aren’t allowed to use contraception “under pain of mortal sin” and are encouraged to have large families to populate heaven and “God will provide.” This is also pre-Vatican II teaching, but they promote it with no exception. Even the natural rhythm method isn’t allowed. No sex outside of marriage, no long-term relationships or cohabiting without being married. A civil marriage isn’t recognised in the eyes of God. No divorce. Separation may be permitted if the circumstances are serious, but remarriage isn’t allowed as it won’t be recognised by God. Gay relationships are “wrong” and against the “natural order” created by God. Being gay is a “sinful inclination” which must be fought against. The State is wrong if it legalises abortion or divorce. Any of these things are a “mortal sin” which will send you to Hell if they are not confessed to a priest and absolution given.

Hell, Purgatory, the Devil and sin are very real to those who attend SSPX chapels.  The teachings of pre-Vatican II are that there are two types of sin, mortal sin which kills the soul and sends you to Hell, and venial sin which only weakens the soul and leaves little stains which you will have to spend time in purgatory to get rid of.  Even after your sins are forgiven in confession, you won’t go to Hell, but you may have to spend time in Purgatory before going to Heaven to make up for “the temporal punishment due for sin.” Purgatory is basically like Hell with fire except you don’t spend eternity there. You could possibly spend years and years there if you don’t do enough “prayer and penance.” Certain prayers have indulgences attached to them which shorten your time in Purgatory. You can also say these prayers for yourself of for relatives who might still be in Purgatory. Attending Masses also shorten your time or a relative’s time in Purgatory. This was mainstream Catholic teaching before Vatican II but the SSPX also promotes it. It is a cruel teaching that makes you worried that your loved ones might possibly be suffering in Purgatory because you may not have said enough prayers or heard enough masses for them. 

Another cruel pre-Vatican II teaching that is strictly taught to the laity is that limbo exists and that unborn babies who are unbaptized go there. Catholicism teaches that everyone is born with Original Sin on their souls from Adam and Eve and that Christ instituted the sacrament of Baptism to cleanse the soul. It is not just a ceremony that welcomes the child into God’s community. A child is considered incapable of committing any sins until they reach “the use of reason” at approximately 5-7 years old. However, an unbaptized child is still unworthy to see God if it has Original Sin on its soul. Because he/she didn’t commit any personal sin he/she goes to limbo, which is a place of peace, but God is not there. Most Traditional Catholic parents carry immense anxiety about their children until they get them baptized and do so as soon as possible after birth. This writer is not a parent, but I can only imagine the heartbreak endured by Traditional Catholic parents who lose children through miscarriage and end up believing that the souls of their children will never see God.

Extreme Unction (Sacrament of the Sick) is the means to strengthen you against the attacks of the Devil in your last moments. The laity are taught that the devil tries to make one last bid for your soul when you are dying. If parents don’t have the “State of Grace” provided by the Sacrament of Marriage, they will find it difficult to bring up their children as good Catholics and save their souls. Without the SSPX you won’t be guaranteed priests who are ordained properly and who can provide the true Mass and the sacraments vital for salvation. If you deny even one ”Article of Faith” you commit a mortal sin. If you miss Sunday Mass without a good reason, you commit a mortal sin. If you eat meat on a Friday without an exemption for ill health you commit a mortal sin. Mortal sins kill the soul and send you to hell. Mortal sins must be confessed, and absolution received in confession, or you will go to hell.

These teachings make the laity very psychologically dependent on the clergy for their “eternal salvation.” There is no possibility of having a personal relationship with God. There must be a human intermediary, the priests, the “other Christs”. Only they have the power to offer Mass which is the re-enactment of Christ’s death on the cross which earned the salvation of humankind. Only they have the power to administer the sacraments, the source of God’s grace. Only the SSPX has priests that you can be sure are validly ordained and that teach the Catholic Faith without any errors or compromise. All other religions are false religions and will not help you get to Heaven. Even the mainstream Catholic Church may not get you to Heaven because of Vatican II. The SSPX teaches “outside the Catholic Church there is no salvation “ and they think that they are the only true Catholics.

Isolation from the outside world

A certain amount of isolation from society is encouraged, isolation from “the world, the flesh and the Devil.” The most common type is regarding the education of children. Mainstream schools are seen as not teaching the Catholic faith. They are seen as teaching “Modernist” or secular ideas, or “anti-family” ideas such as LGBTQ rights. Passing on the Faith to children and teaching them to be good Catholics is seen as one of the most important duties of parents. Many parents send their children to SSPX schools or homeschool them if that option is not available.  Other Traditional Catholic parents see no problem with sending their children to local schools and do not see it as incompatible with their passing on the faith to their children. The idea is to have adults who will be faithful Traditional Catholics and who will possibly consider that they have “vocations” to become priests or nuns.

The faithful are also discouraged from watching TV, films or programmes or reading any material that is deemed to be immoral or dangerous to the faith. The SSPX has long discouraged it’s faithful from having TVs or unrestricted internet access, though it is okay to have them if you only watch things that are considered wholesome.

Attendance at children’s summer camps, young adults weekend outings, retreats and pilgrimages organised by the SSPX is strongly encouraged in order to “strengthen your faith.”


In recent years many sex abuse scandals within the SSPX have come to light and several priests have been convicted and jailed in other countries.  There are investigations currently taking place abroad into sex abuse by SSPX priests and cover ups by SSPX superiors. The SSPX allegedly has a history of covering up abuse, moving priests to different missions around the world to preserve their reputation, or the “reputation of the Church” which they view themselves as being synonymous with. This writer has only discovered this information online years after leaving the group. The SSPX is deceptive and withholds vital information like this from it’s parishioners.

The SSPX was also mired in controversy when one of it’s bishops, Richard Williamson denied the Holocaust in an interview for a Swedish documentary in 2009. The SSPX itself has also faced accusations of anti-semitism over the years, though it has tried to clear up it’s image and present itself as a viable Catholic religious order that has a lot to offer the Church.

Bishop Williamson has never recanted his opinions. He was expelled from the SSPX in 2012 because of disobedience to his superiors. He is currently leading a breakaway group from the main SSPX, called the SSPX Resistance. This is a loose group of priests and laity around the world. It broke away from the main SSPX approximately a decade ago over concerns that the SSPX was going to reconcile with the mainstream Catholic Church without addressing the doctrinal concerns of Vatican II. The indoctrination of the laity to reject Vatican II backfired against the SSPX in this instance. Both groups see themselves as the only ones truly preserving the legacy of Archbishop Levebvre and completely disagree with each other.

The SSPX resistance has a base in Ireland in West Cork for several years now. The resistance group in Ireland, and most likely other resistance groups around the world have even less oversight than the original SSPX group. Both groups have the same cultic characteristics.  A second Swedish documentary from 2017 covers concerns of sex abuse in both the main SSPX and the SSPX resistance worldwide. Many people who attended the SSPX resistance masses in Ireland have returned to main SSPX group over the years.

I am concerned for all the people who are attending the masses celebrated by both these groups. Most people are sincere Catholics who just want to practice their faith and are brainwashed into thinking that only these breakaway groups from the Catholic Church can provide them with eternal salvation. Many people have grown up in this group and have known of no other option for attending to their spiritual needs. As a former member of the laity who was indoctrinated as a child I can attest to the hold these groups have over the minds and hearts of those who just want to serve God as best they can.


The Society of St Pius X and it’s splinter group the SSPX resistance has many of the cultic characteristics defined by experts who study high demand/cultic groups and undue influence. I have taken most of these examples from Dr Steven Hasan’s BITE model. The list is not exhaustive.

  • Excessive devotion to a leader living or dead
  • Excessive devotion to an ideal or a set of ideals
  • Minimise or discourage access to non-cult sources of information such as TV, books, magazines and the internet
  • Indoctrination or self-indoctrination through the group’s own books, magazines, videos, catechisms and other sources of material
  • Foster an Us vs them mentality
  • Internalise the group’s doctrine as the truth
  • Instil black and white thinking
  • Discourage independent and critical thought
  • Discourage criticism of the group, it’s leader, doctrines or policies.
  • No happiness or fulfilment outside the group
  • No legitimate reason to leave the group
  • Those who leave are weak, worldly or brainwashed by outside influences
  • Terrible consequences if you leave ie: losing your soul and going to hell
  • Phobia indoctrination ie: if you don’t wear a brown scapular you’re more likely to lose your soul
  • Thought stopping techniques to get rid of negative thoughts ie: saying a short act of faith to drive away any temptations against unbelief.
  • Labelling alternative believe systems as evil or not legitimate or useful
  • Regulate when, how and with whom you can have sex
  • Regulate clothing and hairstyle
  • Discourage individualism, encourage group think
  • Impose rigid rules and regulations
  • Use of loaded language and cliches which only those in the group really understand “Novus Ordo”,“True obedience vs false obedience”, “Operation Survival” “State of Emergency”,”Eternal Rome.”

16 Responses

  1. One SSPX priest celebrated Mass, obviously with the permission of the Bishop, at Arundel RC cathedral (England).
    He instructed the SSPX faithful not to genuflect to the Blessed Sacrament in the tabernacle, believing the Novus Ordo sacrament to be invalid one assumes.
    To be Catholic means to be in communion with the Holy Father and the Bishops throughout the world. The SSPX seems to think that the gates of hell have prevailed.
    I am particularly concerned for those young men and women who find themselves to be gay. They are labelled intrinsically disordered and little pastoral care is shown.


  2. Hi,
    I used to attend the SSPX in England because I prefer the old traditional Mass.
    I left as I was increasingly concerned by what I would describe as a cult atmosphere.
    One gentleman who couldn’t speak French married his fiancee who only spoke pigeon English. This was after a short time of dating.
    Another married a Nigerian girl after chatting on a webcam and having only met in person once.
    Why? Just because the SSPX gang like to marry within the movement. Never mind about compatibility or shared interests… just find another brainwashed anti vat 2 traddy and Bob’s your uncle.
    I know of one gentleman who is completely gay but now in the SSPX feels pressured to date and marry a woman ie. Conform and deny who he is. This can only be described as psychological abuse resulting in internalised homophobia.
    There are many conspiracy theorists, sedevacantists and nostalgic types who like to dress up and smoke pipes as if it’s the 1950s.
    I would encourage those who are attached to the Latin Mass to attend a group in full communion with Rome. The church was never perfect. The SSPX live in a ghetto dreamworld. Hopes of unity with Rome is off the cards.


  3. You have again in a short summary given a master class on cultism. It is not about beliefs but the traits you outlined. Heresy is merely who controls the narrative. Obviously we take into account beliefs in helping to categorise a group but not to define it as a cult in that it has a false doctrine as you see it.


  4. Edit to last paragraph of last comment:
    The SSPX and SSPX Resistance meet these criteria. They could be entirely NON RELIGOUS groups and still display cultic/high demand characteristics and that is the issue that needs to be addressed.


  5. Hello mcl 153

    Thank you for your comment. I appreciate your imput. In terms of it’s cultic characteristics the issue of whether the SSPX is considered “heretical” or is disapproved of by the mainstream Catholic Church is entirely irrelevant. People have the right to whatever beliefs they want in any religious group or none at all as long as their freedom of mind and person is respected.

    The question is whether the SSPX and it’s breakaway group the SSPX Resistance function as healthy groups which respect the boundaries of their members, or are they destructive high demand and manipulative groups that exercises undue influence and control over their members. As cultic elements can also exist in non religious groups such as political cults, therapy cults and mlms to name a few, religious belief is entirely irrelevant unless it is used as a means of undue influence and control.

    The discussion of the doctrinal issues surrounding the SSPX distracts from the real issue of the undue influence and control it excersises over the people attending it’s chapels.

    The SSPX and SSPX Resistance display the following cultic characteristics:

    -Excessive devotion to a leader, living or dead
    -Excessive devotion to an ideal or set of ideals
    -Information control, people are told what they can watch and read and are encouraged to only consume sspx material as much as possible.
    -Isolation from the outside world, SSPX members are encouraged not to send their children to mainstream schools if possible and to only associate with other SSPX people as much as possible.
    -Interference in the family life of others, in this case families are forbidden from using birth control.
    – What type of clothing you can wear is controlled, particularly in the case of women in the SSPX.
    – You are not allowed to explore options outside the group, in this case in the practice of religious beliefs.
    – Exploitation of others, which can take many different forms, including sexual abuse.
    – Phobia indoctrination.

    That is only a very basic outline of the controlling and manipulative influence of the SSPX. These cultic characteristics can be found in many other cults which are non religious so that is why the focus should be on that. Cults are very misunderstood but they are basically destructive, high demand, controlling groups that don’t respect healthy boundaries and excersise undue influence and control over their members.

    The SSPX and SSPX Resistance meet these criteria. They could be entirely religious groups and still display cultic/high demand characteristics and that is the issue that needs to be addressed.

    Once again, thanks for your input.


  6. The SSPX is first and foremost heretical, in addition to all the other issues (no surprise).
    They deny several Catholic dogmas and pretend to be traditional Catholics when in fact they don’t care enough about the purity of the faith. Their denial of certain dogmas is rather sly as the group seem to be genuine about the Catholic faith at cursory first glance.
    See this revealing video:


  7. Excellent article,
    I was dragged in by a group that met in a well known Cathedral in Cork, it looked like a normal group for young Catholics but it was not, they brainwashed me and I started attending sspx mass, I just attended 4 months and I am happy they considered me worse than the devil, too free thinker for a woman, but the spiritual abuse was done. Women are or uterus or nuns, or Mary Magdalenes.
    The worse is that this group recruits in non sspx parishes in Ireland.


  8. Thanks for your valuable contribution. May I suggest you might contact Tusla to see if the X have proper childcare provisions? It might be good as Charles suggests to report his situation to the authorities. One can’t do that if one is not a witness to actual activity. However, bringing the reports to Tusla is the responsible thing to do. I am led to believe that someone did report X to Tusla and within days X had their child protection policy up on their site. What does that tell us?


  9. Hello William

    Thank you very much for your comment. I would like to clarify that these are not unfounded accusations. Fr Angles and the SSPX is being investigated by the authorities in Kansas (by the Kansas Bureau of Investigation) and that has been reported on by an unbiased secular newspaper called the Kansas City Star. A newspaper can’t report something like that unless it’s sure otherwise they just leave themselves open to committing libel. The print article on the newspaper website is now behind a paywall unfortunately but hopefully people might be able to google it and access it.

    Here is a link to a video on the Kansas City Star website which is still accessible.

    Here are other links which address the sex abuse problem within the
    SSPX in general and it’s culture of cover ups.

    Here is a link to an informative investigative documentary by Swedish journalists.

    If Fr Angles is regularly travelling in and out of Ireland then that is very concerning and it means that the SSPX is not taking it’s child safeguarding obligations seriously. I hope you are wrong about that.


  10. Sad to see Dialogue Ireland (essentially a well meaning group) attack a Catholic organization like this. Ex members of any church are never considered objective when it comes to assessing the merits of their former church. There are always weak willed people who resent rules of voluntary groups like the Church and lash out in forums where they have the protection of anonymity. It is particularly disgusting that you are allowing people to make accusations of criminal misbehaviour by a priest of the SSPX on this forum. The priest in question is a regular visitor to Ireland and is entitled to his good name. If there were any question marks about him he would be questioned by An Garda Síochána.


  11. Excellent well done and more importantly it is important to keep this issue alive.


  12. Thanks Dialogue Ireland for posting my comment! I did contact the relevant authorities some time back about safeguarding concerns which resulted in legally required child safeguarding policies suddenly appearing on the SSPX website. They had to be chased down to put them in place.


  13. An excellent and inspired reply. I would suggest you contact the safeguarding section of the HSE and make contact with your local social worker. Currently vulnerability is only addressed in the elderly over 60 and younger people with disabilities. Leaves a lot exposed.


  14. Hello Rachel

    I would like to thank you for your reply to my post. It shows the far reaching negative effects that the SSPX has worldwide and not just in Ireland. What happens in another SSPX mission in another part of the world can affect Ireland too as priests are transferred worldwide. I am so glad you mentioned Fr Angles. He was superior of the SSPX in Ireland from 2003 up until approximately 5 years ago or so the last I heard. I would need confirmation of his time of departure as I had left at that stage but I remember when he was transferred here. I can assure you that the Irish SSPX laity at the time were not given the slightest inkling of the trail of accusations of sex abuse that Fr Angles left behind him in Kansas. I would still be unaware myself if it were not for the fact that the SSPX is under investigation by authorities in Kansas and it has been covered in an article by a newspaper called the Kansas City Star. The superiors of the SSPX transferred Fr Angles to Ireland to get him out of the way with zero disregard for the safety of Irish children attending SSPX chapels. He is now in Italy I believe. And the SSPX still has the gall to portray itself as the only true order of Catholic priests and the only way to Heaven. They will judge women for not wearing skirts and dressing “immodestly” but will sweep sex abuse by their priests under the rug. They have so many people worldwide manipulated into thinking that these accusations are lies and persecution against holy priests, at least the people who are actually aware. They are a high demand manipulative cultic group that have so many good people in it’s grasp. And I include the SSPX resistance groups in this. The SSPX superiors past and present should hang their heads in shame.

    I am so sorry for what your husband went through and what you went through during your comparatively short time with the SSPX. At first you think you are going to a more reverent Latin Mass and then you think it makes sense to do more things the pre Vatican II way. If it was right before it must be right now. That is the reasoning they use to get you. And the control just increases. I would love to connect with you and see your list of reasons of why the SSPX is a destructive cult. It would be interesting to check it against lists of characteristics compiled by cult experts.

    I want to use this opportunity again to point out that there is a desperate need for the Irish government to establish a State organisation that studies cultic/high demand groups both religious and non religious and informs the public about undue influence, manipulation and coercive
    control within these groups/cults. There needs to be education at a societal level so that people can recognise the signs when a loved one or friend is taken in by one of these groups and the resources need to be there to help them get out or support them after they get out. Mental health professionals must be provided education about the cultic phenomenon and how to help it’s victims. No one willingly joins a cult. They are born into one, brought into one or join one thinking it is a benevolent group that will help them achieve some some good in the religious sphere or elsewhere.


  15. An excellent comment which we likely will make into a post.


  16. Thank you for writing this. My husband was raised in this cult and I was a “Novus Ordo” Catholic who was sucked in for a couple years. At first, I just wanted to please his family, but then I became a paranoid, conservative version of my former self. The SSPX priest at our former church in the US (Eddystone, PA) had me believe that unless I was able to bring my family into the SSPX, they would go to hell, and that I needed to stop talking to them if they weren’t going to join, or I would go to hell. We were also told by this priest in many of his homilies not to speak to other Novus Ordo Catholics, protestants, and especially Jews, unless it was impossible to avoid at work, or we would go to hell. I did bring my parents to a mass and thankfully they knew something wasn’t right. Of course this lead to me crying over them being damned, and many ridiculous fights between us. At the same time, none of this ever sat right with me, and I believed it was a cult in the back of my mind the entire time I was a part of it, and I knew my parents were right about them, but they still had control over my mind.

    In addition to this, my husband’s parents had at one point moved their family to St. Mary’s, Kansas (a small city the SSPX has completely taken over, pushed out locals and SSPX members now make up the city government and police force, who have ignored many of the sexual abuse cases.) When my husband attended school there, he was sexually harassed by an older student. After repeatedly asking the student to stop touching him and the student refusing to listen, he defended himself. The priest and principal at the time, Fr. Ramon Angles, only expelled my husband and not the child who sexually harassed him. As it turns out, Fr. Angles molested multiple boys there, including a child who later committed suicide. I do wonder if the boy who harassed my husband had been a victim of Fr. Angles too, as it’s not uncommon for children to repeat the abuse done to them. When allegations made the news, they moved Fr. Angles to Italy, where he remains today. He is also accused of molesting boys in Ireland, and the SSPX is protecting him from being properly investigated in two different countries.

    Thankfully, we are both out of this cult and I too have made a list as to why the SSPX is in fact a destructive cult. My husband’s experiences in St. Mary’s would blow your mind. Unfortunately, most of my husband’s family is still involved with the SSPX and many of his aunts, uncles and cousins still live in St. Mary’s. I would love to see this group be shut down, and to get help for my husband’s family, but it seems near impossible. Let me know if you’d like to connect, I’d love to share my list with another former member.

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