Royal Canadian Mounted Police believe it is necessary to have an organisation in order to get workers vetted to engage with child protection.

Royal Canadian Mounted Police

Here we spell out what the police told us. Please address this Workers and Friends from around the world. We called the Police in Cranbrook, BC, Canada and they were very clear that anyone who wished to work with vulnerable people must be vetted and and only an organisation can do it!

https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2018/01/31/report-on-the-2x2s-by-dialogue-ireland-with-reference-to-child-protection-and-other-issues/#more-21288

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3 Responses

  1. Paul this Mind games is quite an operator. Do you note he tries to put in a heavy punch in the first round to knock you off your stride.

    I recommend doing proper due diligence before publishing information and you will avoid publishing further incorrect information. It is helpful to your credibility.

    Sounds very authorative does it not? Again I phoned the police and the officer was again very helpful and it is likely the link she gave me supports your view that yes an individual can get the criminal record check but it is as you suggested for an organisation. He is really quite a spoofer.
    https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/search?id=2E4C7D6BCAA4470AAAD2DCADF662E6A0&q=criminal+record+checks
    We will look at this but just read them.

    (Also, links that work will also be helpful to your readers and your credibility.)

    So if a link does not work that suggests our credibility is shot, terrible is it not Paul. We would be delighted to fix it if you stopped being so pompous.

    I loved this one:
    This is straight from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police:

    “It is the responsibility of the organization OR PERSON responsible for the vulnerable person/people to request a vulnerable sector check. Equally, it is the PERSON or organization responsible for the vulnerable person/people who decides how often a vulnerable sector check must be repeated.

    Do give us the link so we can read it in context!!!!!

    Public Safety Canada’s Screening Handbook, 2012 Edition provides organizations with guidance on what level of criminal record screening they require and how to determine their screening requirements.”

    provides organizations You seem to have got it Paul organisations. He actually is beginning to get it, but we will expect more Juno beach stuff from the Canadians.

    Now perhaps you can explain to your readers which members of the 2×2’s take charge of children/vulnerable people who are not their parents or primary caregivers. That will provide some guidance as to who you would recommend receive criminal background checks.

    Thanks Paul you got it in one.

    The 2×2 workers that come into homes of members are not the parents or primary caregivers, and while every individual can have whoever they wish stay in their home, when the ethos is that workers must be welcomed in, then those workers should be vetted. The RCMP piece that you use above is clearly saying that a “person or organisation is responsible to request a check”.

    Now some examples:

    https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/crime-prevention/criminal-record-check/volunteer-organizations

    Volunteer Organizations & Criminal Record Checks

    Volunteer organizations can submit an Application for Registration (PDF) to the Criminal Records Review Program (CRRP) to receive free record checks of volunteers who work with children and vulnerable adults. This is only available to specified organizations defined by the Criminal Records Review Act.

    Registered volunteer organizations get access to the same risk assessment process as employers, including identity verification and vulnerable sector checks.

    Volunteer organizations can opt out of the CRRP at any time by filling out the Application to Opt Out (PDF).

    Applicants who are volunteering with registered organizations can also share the results of their previously completed criminal record check with other volunteer organizations in the program, should they choose. Doing so reduces the need for multiple checks as well as the administrative burden on volunteer organizations.

    An organization can decide whether or not to accept a shared criminal record check result and may ask an applicant to conduct a new check.

    https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/crime-prevention/criminal-record-check?keyword=criminal&keyword=record&keyword=checks

    The Criminal Records Review Act ensures that people who work with or may potentially have unsupervised access to children or vulnerable adults undergo a criminal record check by the Criminal Records Review Program (CRRP).

    A person whose criminal record suggests they present a risk of physical or sexual abuse to children or a risk of physical, sexual or financial abuse to vulnerable adults will not have access to these groups.

    To support British Columbia’s non-profit sector, volunteer organizations that are not covered by the act, but which have volunteers working with children or vulnerable adults, can have criminal record checks done by the CRRP for free.

    For-profit organizations not covered by the Criminal Records Review Act that require criminal record checks for employees or volunteers are encouraged to contact their local police.

    To help police provide a common approach to record checks, the Ministry of Public Safety and Solicitor General has developed Model Policy Guidelines (PDF). The guidelines detail the type of information police should or should not release about the findings of a criminal record check. The BC Association of Chiefs of Police endorses the guidelines.

    https://news.gov.bc.ca/stories/volunteers-free-criminal-record-checks-now-in-effect

    Volunteers’ free criminal record checks now in effect
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    Saturday, November 30, 2013 10:00 AM

    Criminal record checks (for those working with children & vulnerable adults)
    Family justice counselling
    Justice Access Centres
    JusticeBC (information on criminal law, family law & justice reform)

    VANCOUVER – Effective today, volunteer and non-profit organizations are eligible for free criminal record checks for their volunteers who work with children and vulnerable adults, through the provincial Criminal Records Review Program.

    Since amending related legislation last spring, government has made various improvements to maximize the program’s effectiveness and efficiency while ensuring it remains cost-neutral for taxpayers overall. Notable benefits include:

    More thorough “vulnerable-sector checks” – including fingerprint checking where appropriate.
    More efficient sharing of current, verified criminal record checks among groups and businesses in the program, saving them time, paperwork and costs. (This applies only for checks completed within the past five years and involving no determination of risk.)
    More mobility of volunteers and publicly funded employees in the volunteer and non-profit sector. Now, they can consent to sharing verified record checks with multiple organizations, instead of having to obtain extra, redundant checks to work with more than one group.
    Free access to expert risk assessment when a check does identify a criminal record containing relevant offences.

    Quote:

    Attorney General and Minister of Justice Suzanne Anton –

    “This change will mean significant benefits to those people who work in the volunteer sector – saving both them and the organizations they work with time, effort and money. As well, and more than ever, this program is putting the safety of children and vulnerable adults first. We’ve enhanced both the scope of the record checks and the affordability of them for groups in the volunteer and non-profit sector. Together, I hope these improvements will only bolster the spirit of volunteerism that supports so many great services and, in turn, quality of life in our province.”

    Quick Facts:

    B.C. was the first province with a broad program to require criminal record reviews of people applying for jobs with unsupervised access to children.
    In 2011, B.C. became the only province to require criminal record checks of employees working with adults at risk of abuse or exploitation due to their age, frailty or disability.
    B.C.’s volunteer-based and non-profit agencies are still free to have their local police or RCMP detachment conduct criminal record checks, or to conduct other appropriate screening to ensure client safety, at their own cost.
    Health-sector and teaching professionals are among workers required to obtain criminal record checks in B.C.

    Learn More:

    More information on the provincial records review program is at: http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/criminal-records-review/

    Contact:

    Government Communications and Public Engagement
    Ministry of Justice
    250 213-3602

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  2. Mindmuser you are confusing the core issue. The 2×2 workers that come into homes of members are not the parents or primary caregivers, and while every individual can have whoever they wish stay in their home, when the ethos is that workers must be welcomed in, then those workers should be vetted. The RCMP piece that you use above is clearly saying that a “person or organisation is responsible to request a check”. The other site you posted a link to “wingsfortruth” which I note you refer to using ” we” suggesting you are a member of that group. has a list of convicted ” professing men” and Workers, so clearly there is an issue.

    whilst there are great guidelines the “wings site” states that nobody of any authority has made them more than just ” guidelines”, and that is exactly the point of Dialogues report, which is while there is acknowledgement that there is a risk, and while there exists a desire to do something,nothing in fact is in place. The lack of a recognisable structure, or line of authority renders a proper functioning policy impossible

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  3. I recommend doing proper due diligence before publishing information and you will avoid publishing further incorrect information. It is helpful to your credibility. (Also, links that work will also be helpful to your readers and your credibility.)

    This is straight from the Royal Canadian Mounted Police:

    “It is the responsibility of the organization OR PERSON responsible for the vulnerable person/people to request a vulnerable sector check. Equally, it is the PERSON or organization responsible for the vulnerable person/people who decides how often a vulnerable sector check must be repeated.

    Public Safety Canada’s Screening Handbook, 2012 Edition provides organizations with guidance on what level of criminal record screening they require and how to determine their screening requirements.”

    Now perhaps you can explain to your readers which members of the 2×2’s take charge of children/vulnerable people who are not their parents or primary caregivers. That will provide some guidance as to who you would recommend receive criminal background checks.

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