THE CULT BUSTER,Theologian,Mike Garde, Director of the Dialogue Ireland Trust

THE CULT BUSTER.

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November 8, 2009 Sunday World

EXCLUSIVE: MAN WHO WANTS TO BRING DOWN QUINN AND GALLAGHER

DANGERS: Mike Garde has dedicated his life to exposing the activities of cults

BY Nicola Tallant

HE IS known as Ireland’s cult buster – a one-man Encyclopedia about everything from the mad Moonies to the scary Scientologists. Theologian Mike Garde, the Director of the Dialogue Ireland Trust, has dedicated his life to informing Irish people of the dangers of getting involved in groups hell bent on taking over your mind and your wallet. Garde’s work is risky business. A file is currently with the DPP in relation to a death threat made on him by one outfit and he and his wife were threatened at their home by another religious group he was trying to expose. He says Ireland has long been a Mecca for such groups because we have no dedicated forum to highlight their mind-bending methods and the psychological damage they cause to individuals and their families.

Education

Garde spends much of the year going around the country to give presentations to sixth-year students set to embark on third-level education, which is a well-worn recruitment ground for many cults. He also helps families around the world who are worried about their loved ones’ involvement in organisations like Tony Quinn’s Educo cult, Christina Gallagher’s House of Prayer movement, or Scientology. A few years ago, John Duignan – whose story, The Complex, was published last year – turned to Mike for help when he wanted to escape from Scientology. “There is no quick solution. My advice is always for people to educate themselves on what a loved one has got involved in and read up as much as possible,” says Garde. “It is so important to be informed. After that they just have to make a journey with someone and that can be a long journey of realisation that can often take years.” Those who require specialist help and need counselling he puts in touch with professionals. He stresses the importance of the internet for the exposure of groups. “Groups used to be able to keep members in ignorance but now people can find material on the internet.

It shows there were issues going back to the early 70s, like in the case of Tony Quinn.  “Also we have an Irish archive on every group and there is a blog which gives people an opportunity to make comments. “I don’t like to use the word cult in relation to any group but what I do look at very closely is the manipulation of people in a group. “It is not about Waco or Jonestown or some faraway event, but the cultist

attitudes and tendencies that can be found in any organisation. If someone loses their individuality because they have allowed their mind to be taken over by a person or a group, that can be deemed as a cult situation. “But it doesn’t only have to be in the likes of Tony Quinn’s group or in the Church of Scientology; it can happen to on a smaller basis in your local parish, in a political party, banks and in other businesses.”

Garde has got himself into many a scrape over the years but has also had huge successes.

In 1997 he staged protests outside the Church of Scientology in Dublin after Wexford man Odhran Fortune disappeared with members of the group while home for Christmas. The story highlighted the secretive nature of the Church, which has a branch on Middle Abbey Street and which lists a who’s who of celebrity members.

Brainwash

Garde has been a long-time opponent of the Church, which he says isolates members from their families and the outside world and which uses its own form of psychotherapy to brainwash converts. The Church has attempted to affect his work in schools by claiming Garde is associated with drug cartels in Mexico, is a former racist

from South Africa, and even attempted to link him to Fr Fortune, the paedophile priest. In 2002 he exposed a controversial group based in Wexford called The Pilgrim House Community. They were being funded by the then Eastern Health Board for running a residential centre for mentally handicapped people. In 2003, he was at the fore of exposing Australian ‘visionary’ Debra Burslem, founder of the Magnificat Meal Movement, (MMM) who operates a similar group to Christina Gallagher’s House of Prayer. Her followers were convinced to part with vast amounts of money and properties and to join communes as ‘slaves’. Garde was in Australia when an Irish woman brought her 15-year-old daughter, who was suffering from leukaemia, to the MMM in search of a miracle. The child died after she stopped taking her m e d i c a t i o n while there. (Edit- She died shortly after returning home in 2003.)

Garde wrote a thesis on the MMM group and the document is now to be used in court cases in Australia, where tax authorities are going after the ‘visionary’ for unpaid revenue. In recent years, Garde says mind guru Tony Quinn and stigmata woman Christina Gallagher have kept him busiest. Both have been exposed in the Sunday World.

Mental

“With Quinn, it is a mixture of religious power, influence and money that drives him. It is similar with Gallagher. It is the mental manipulation and control that they use over members that is of concern,” says Garde. “Most of the calls I have been receiving in recent years have either come from ex-members or relatives involved with Quinn or Gallagher. “The fact is that if someone is over 18 and wants to remain in a group, just because their family decide they don’t like it doesn’t mean you can bulldoze in and take them out.

“Nowadays we talk about ‘thought reform’, which involves working with the family and the person in the group to seek to discuss their involvement with a ‘cult’. It can be a long process because the person has to realise that their membership was a mistake.”

Garde says he would love to see a forum where professional bodies and the government would work together to keep abreast of religious movements operating here. “It is estimated that as many as 60,000 people in Ireland are directly or indirectly affected by these groups and their influence. Yet we have no government interest or proper studies being done,” he says.

Visit www.dialogueireland.org.

Mike Garde the Director of the Dialogue Ireland Trust and members of his committee can be contacted on 01-8309384.

nicola.tallant@sundayworld.com

 

NOTHING BUT A TRANCER ‘Archangel’ gave her communion-Sunday World

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Sunday World November 8, 2009

NOTHING  BUT A TRANCER

‘Archangel’ gave her communion.’

BY JIM GALLAGHER

MILLIONAIRE mystic Christina Gallagher

gave an “Oscar winning” performance

during one of her

controversial ecstasies, a new book

has claimed.

Immaculate Deception reveals that the

fake visionary pretended to go into a trance

and claimed she was given Holy Communion

direct from the Archangel Michael.

The 56-year-old mother of two is believed to

have hidden something white on the roof of her

mouth and then pulled it down with her tongue at

the appropriate time.

Her sidekick Fr Gerard McGinnity told the astonished

crowd that the Archangel had come down from

heaven to given Gallagher the “host.”

Gallagher’s adoring fans were overwhelmed by what

they thought was a truly supernatural experience.

One former close friend of the visionary, who is

called Patrick in the explosive book which was published

last week, said he was stunned by what he saw.

But he believes today the event was set up by the

under-fire visionary.

Donors

Patrick said Gallagher had invited all her biggest

donors to the prayer session in July 1999 and ordered

that it be filmed, a rarity for the House of Prayer on

Achill Island where cameras are normally banned.

During the session in the chapel, Gallagher suddenly

threw her arms up towards heaven and bent her body

backwards while staring upwards as if looking at the

Virgin Mary. She then opened her mouth and a white

“host” suddenly appeared.

Immaculate Deception reveals that Fr McGinnity

seemed to know in advance what was happening to

Christina because he told the crowds that when she

opened her mouth the Archangel Michael had

appeared and given her Holy Communion.

Patrick said: “I certainly believe it was a gimmick

now. But on that particular day I thought something

unusual and extraordinary was happening. It certainly

was not the angel from heaven.”

He said a part of the “communion” appeared to have

a kink in it and that Gallagher asked him later if he

noticed.

During this ecstasy Gallagher claimed she received a

message from Our Lady that she would give a protective

“seal” against the Antichrists to all those attending

the House of Prayer over the next two years.

Patrick said this became Gallagher’s “biggest money-

spinner of all time” as the seal was only available at

the House of Prayer and she urged people to travel

from all over the world to get it.

●Immaculate Deception by Jim Gallagher is published

by Merlin and costs €12.99.

Also available from DI

Comment2Post Anon reacts to Richard Curran’s Sunday Business Post oil article

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Submitted on 2009/11/10 at 2:18am

I don’t know if Mr Curran of the Sunday Business Post reads your blog Dialogue Ireland, but if he does he might be surprised at some of the following facts. In fairness BNE is a great company with great prospects and has the good people of Belize supporting and working for it. The ideal was a great one – Irish shareholders investing in Belize and helping a small nation like Ireland itself and in the process making some money. It was win win. Tony Quinn came along and suddenly things changed. He himself told the international audience of shareholders at the AGM in September that “the English said they never have to worry about the Irish because they’re always fighting among themselves” He admonished his 300 or more audience in Ireland saying that what the English said was true. Great plug Tony. He was referring to an ongoing rift among shareholders about his being on their board. But let’s look at the article.

the article says that BNE owns 60% – it is 54% (according AGM in Sept)

the article says that BNE employs 200 staff – it is 163 (according to AGM)

the article says that BNE have several hundred Irish investors (around 400)

The article says BNE are “distributing returns totalling about 10 million” dollars. They are not.

According to their legal counsel and directors as announced at the AGM the company today is valued on the price of oil but they are trying to find another way of valuing the company they said i.e. by starting a “loan distribution progamme”. “You have to take it as a loan but of course it is at the discretion of the board to extend the loan and only to those people in good standing”. They said that if the shareholders wait for profit sharing they will not get it for three years. By taking a loan they can “have it in their pockets for Christmas”.

They claim that they had to take the loan out to “cover the already existing loan for drilling but the directors decided to secure more funds by adding to the loan”. So how does it work?

According to when you bought in, you will get either 10, 20 or 30 dollars per share this Christmas. Then next year you will get the same (once you don’t want to pay back this years loan). Then year 3, they say “the numbers could be doubled because profits will be realised and you will get a proper dividend”.

They announced that it is a “3 tier plan” – now where did we hear that before?

They announced that it “flows all the way to Nevis which is tax free into Ireland which is most advantagous to the shareholder”. “it’s a loan programme that is tax free” they said. Now who could give such wonderful advice? One of BNE’s direcors announced “credit where credit is due the real credit should go to Tony Quinn”.

That brings us to another discrepancy in the article where it states that the “investors” include Tony Quinn.

Tony Quinn is not an investor. When BNE opened their doors and scoured through Irish people looking for shareholders, the people who attended Mr. Quinn’s seminars were the first to be targeted. And lucky them as they got in for very low priced shares. Tony Quinn did not want to know. He did not want anything to do with the oil company and many can attest to this.

AFTER oil was found Collette Millea, his business manager, was brought on stage to tell everyone at his seminar in Dublin how Tony told her he saw “a light around Mike Usher’s head”. MIke was one of the original directors who went on one of Quinn’s seminars. He had passed away (RIP) before this great sighting was announced.

AFTER oil was found Mr Quinn told all his inner circle, and later announced on stage that he “saw a light coming out the top of Jean Cornec’s head” He said he told the light to find the oil when he shook Cornec’s hand. (Cornec was the geologist that spent many years looking for oil with Mike Usher). That handshake Quinn claimed was the reason the oil was found in the first place. Cornec is nowhere to be seen since Quinn joined the ranks.

AFTER oil was found Mr Quinn was made a director of the company.

AFTER oil was found Mr Quinn was deemed to be an “originating” director.

Far from investing money – Quinn was gifted 24 million dollars worth of shares.

The Irish shareholders were never asked to vote him in.

No one knows what he did to earn this 24 million apart from seeing lights.

No one knows where the shares came from that were gifted to him.

No one is allowed to ask questions.

His first task as director was to announce that people had to go on one of his seminars before they could buy shares in BNE.

He joined the board but 2 of the original directors were suspended and 1 got out.

His Blueprint newspaper was delivered by post to all shareholders along with a personal letter from Quinn asking them to “Trust”.

His Blueprint newspaper was put up on the BNE website.

It is suspected that BNE paid his expenses to do a seminar with the government of Belize who were voted out of office shortly after.

He personally wrote a newspaper supporting that government just before they were voted out of office. He supervised the great articles about himself in this newspaper of course.

There was no agenda at the AGM.

There was no question and answer session at the AGM.

There were personal confrontations between Quinn and former followers at the AGM.

One Quinn follower jumped up on stage at the AGM and told the room full of shareholders that it’s “all about the love”.

Finally:

I wonder where the board got the idea that the Irish shareholders would want to avoid/evade paying tax to the Irish Government? I wonder why the board i.e. 2 people from Northern Ireland, 1 from Belize and Tony Quinn would get up in front of hundreds of Irish people in the Burlington hotel and tell them how to not pay tax in our own country?

Maybe some journalist can go out to Mr Quinn’s home and ask him for answers. Oh no I forgot – he only lives there for a certain number of weeks a year.

Irish investors to get Belize oil payout

The Sunday Business Post published this story Nov 8. Dialogue Ireland has been in touch with the journalist to clarify this story.

For background see:

http://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2009/09/22/minder-bender-mixing-oil-and-educo/

The Sunday Business Post

Irish investors to get Belize oil payout

08 November 2009 By Richard Curran

 

Belize Natural Energy (BNE), an exploration company founded by Belfast woman Susan Morrice, is to begin distributing returns totalling about$10million to shareholders in the coming weeks.

 

The company, which found oil in the Central American country Belize in 2005, is producing around 5,000 barrels of oil per day. In 2008, it had revenues of$113 million and reported a net profit of $26.7 million.

 

The firm, which employs 200 staff, is backed by several hundred individual investors from Ireland, including well known hypnotist and health guru Tony Quinn.

 

Morrice, who studied geology in Trinity College Dublin, said the company was now the biggest employer in Belize and the biggest single contributor to the state’s revenues.

 

The Belize government gets royalty payments and has a 10per cent equity stake in the oil field known as Spanish Lookout. Located around 70miles from the coast, the field is producing the highest grade light sweet crude oil.

 

‘‘It’s so high grade that locals are putting it directly in their generators,” she said.

 

According to Morrice, it has recoverable reserves of 20to 24 million barrels of oil.

 

The original licence area, which is 60per cent-owned by BNE, covers half-a million acres.

 

Morrice said the company had now made a discovery in a second field, called the Never Delay field, named after a nearby bridge. ‘‘We are working on details on a plan to develop this field,” she said.

 

BNE is the only company to be successful in oil production in Belize.

 

Morrice said 51 companies had tried and failed to find oil in Belize and walked away from it before the BNE discovery.

 

BNE owns 60per cent of the venture. A Denver company called CHX and the Belize state own the rest.

St. Petersburg Times editorial 8th November

Investigation overdue

 

When workers for the Church of Scientology sign a contract agreeing to serve in the church’s Sea Organization for “the next billion years,” the church can twist that agreement into a license to harass its workers, track them down if they leave and pressure them to return. What true church, what caring employer, would trample on the dignity and free choices of its own members in such a way? And what are authorities going to do about it?

 

In a three-day special report last week, the St. Petersburg Times’ Joe Childs and Thomas C. Tobin told the stories of former members of the so-called Sea Org, Scientology’s most dedicated labor force, and the ordeal the church put them through after they tried to leave without permission.

 

Sea Org members hold jobs such as gardeners, cooks, laborers, secretaries and assembly line workers. The church demands sacrifice and obedience from its employees, and what does it deliver in return? Sea Org workers are provided room and board but paid a pittance — far below minimum wage. Those interviewed by the Times said they were required to work extended hours, deprived of sleep, separated from their spouses, subjected to multiple daily head counts to ensure no one slipped away, punished if they fell short of expectations and required to sign “confessions” the church kept and later used against them.

 

If they wanted to quit, these workers could not just resign from their jobs and leave. Church policy required that they “route out,” a process that could take months of daily interrogations and intense pressure. If they gathered their meager belongings and ran, church security teams and private investigators tracked them by using their bank and credit card records as well as personal information they had given the church about their backgrounds, family and friends. Once located and confronted, the workers were told if they didn’t return to the Sea Org, their chance at “eternity” — to be reborn into a new body each time they died — would be lost. In effect, Scientology held the cards.

 

If they succumbed and returned to the Sea Org, some received even worse treatment. They were placed on a punishment detail called the Rehabilitation Project Force, enduring weeks or months of manual labor, limited food and rest, and enforced silence. In one instance, former Sea Org member Don Jason told the Times that after he agreed to return he was held captive in a locked cabin aboard the Scientology ship Freewinds, with a security camera trained on him even as he slept. He eventually escaped from the ship and is now telling his story.

 

As former staffers lift the veil of secrecy that for years has obscured the inner workings of the Church of Scientology, a new mystery emerges: Why are government authorities looking the other way? The Internal Revenue Service has ample reason to reconsider its decision to grant Scientology tax-exempt status as a religion. Labor officials should determine whether wage and working condition violations have occurred, and law enforcement ought to investigate whether the church’s restraint on members’ free movement crossed a legal line.

 

The Church of Scientology trumpets its global reach and expansions in communities large and small across America. Its presence can be disruptive, as Clearwater has learned since the church secretly moved in and established its spiritual headquarters in the city more than 25 years ago. Government cannot afford to be complacent, and those politicians and community leaders who have normalized relations with Scientology can no longer claim ignorance about the nature of the church and the treatment of its workers.

 

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editorials/investigation-overdue/1050004

Question and answers from Maynooth Conference: Mick Farrell 2 Eileen Barker

Question and answers from Maynooth Conference: Mick Farrell 2 Eileen Barker

As a result of a question and answer interaction, between myself and guest speaker Eileen Barker, (at the Maynooth conference on “Alternative spirituality’s, the New Age and New Religious Movements in Ireland”, last Saturday the 31st of October, a number of issues arose which I feel need to be addressed.  As can be appreciated, if you contribute to a discussion through a question and answer format, and you feel, or it’s not made clear, you will be given the opportunity to respond, you can be left in a very vulnerable position.  I believe such a situation arose last Saturday, when Eileen Barker instead of confining herself to answering the questions posed, made some comments and statements, which I felt, were more about discrediting my professional integrity than indulging in truth finding discourse.  This left me no option but to continually object to her assertions, a development which led to the break down of communication.  I don’t wish to dwell on this issue, but use it as an opportunity, to state, where I was coming from and give some enlightenment with respect to the broader issues concerning cultism, and the problems associated with the dispersal of objective information.

To put readers in the picture, Eileen Barker is a well recognized international figure in the field of cultism. A professor of sociology, she is founder and present chairperson of INFORM, a charity, supported by the British Home Office and mainstream Churches in Britain.   At an international level of scholarship, her work has been highly controversial.  I think it is fair to say, those who accept her theoretical position and fully approve her research methods will tend not to accept concepts such as: brainwashing, mind control or thought reform as real phenomena’s.  Barker has published many papers, and her book “Making of a Moonie” received both much acclaim and criticism.    On the other side of the divide, respected scholars of International esteem such as: Robert J Lifton, (Publisher of the classic “Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism”) Philip Zimbardo, publisher of “The Lucifer Effect” and Leon Festinger, publisher of “ A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance”, are independent scholars who are used by critics of Barker to support the idea that people can be consciously and unconsciously influenced to act against their own: beliefs, values and best interests.

Obviously this article is not sufficient to deal with the issue of Cultism in a holistic manner.  Nevertheless, I think a lot  can be learned by a brief  analysis  of some key issues of contention in Eileen Barkers presentation; some extracts from her web site paper titled ”What Should We Do About Cults” penned in 2006; and a brief summary of how those issues impacted on my interaction with the presenter.  The key points of contention revolved around the following: Beliefs, Naming the subject, Sociological frame work, interpreting the problem, Representation of perspectives, scientific analysis of the subject. Since my views on cultism are consistent with the mind control model and influence by the disciplines of anthropology and psychotherapy I think you will find this a useful analytic and comparative exercise.  I will use the letters B. for Baker and F. for Farrell as index markers.

BELIEFS.

B. The presentation began with a quote from Louise Carroll’s “Alice in Wonderland”  “Curioser and Curioser! cried Alice.  ‘Well yes and no,’ replied the sociologist”.  The presenter then indulged in a narrative which emphasized that people could hold the strangest and most curious of beliefs, but were only curious to those who did not understand or subscribe to them.  The central message was that people’s beliefs should not be a threat to anybody because they were new or different.  Also, beliefs are not a threat in themselves and should be “Value Free”.  New Religious Movements should therefore not be perceived as a threat, because they are new and a curiosity.

B. The  same theme surfaces on her web page in this Quote : If they (NRMs) live within the law, they should not be subject to special treatment because of their beliefs any more than Methodists or Catholics in contemporary Western society are subject to special regulation purely because of their beliefs, When the Manson family or Aum Shinrikyo murdered innocent members of the public , it was because of the murders, not because of Manson’s or Asahara’s religious beliefs, that the law needed to be brought to bear. Web paper, p 372

F. From a psychological perspective, this raises important questions. Such as, how do people come to accept beliefs, which are: false misleading or simply dangerous? I would argue that in the context of a cultic environment, beliefs are not embraced through a system of open learning, but, by a combination of cultic processes. In other words, there is a serious ethical question here, which is not “Value Free”.

The beliefs of the Aum Shinrikyo group raise a different question. To quote Robert Lifton: “The Guru Asahara and his small cult, went close to making a poor mans atomic bomb. Had they succeeded the consequences could have been devastating”.

( Lifton, R. 1999, “Destroying the World to Save It”) I believe if a group expresses such beliefs as mass suicide or genocide, and there is clear evidence of cultic processes taking place, the law should have the power to disperse members to safe environments.  Environments, where they would be away from the influence of the group, and where they could be counseled about the characteristics of mind control. The need to separate can be understood by an examination of Leon Festinger’s “social support Theory” (Festinger, L. 1957 “A Theory of Cognitive Dissonance)

Barker seems to miss the point, beliefs and values of a particular genre can give rise to particular mind control processes and actions which are not reversible.  I am not speaking just about the belief in the need to destroy the world, but a combination of other cultic beliefs which might include: the Guru has special knowledge; devotees are not spiritually realized enough to understand Gods messages, etc.  To people outside a mind control environment such ideas might sound suspect. But for those who have internalized the beliefs as: literal truth; sacred and unquestionable; and understood within the context of reward and punishment, not acting upon them may not be an option.

Also, as will become apparent in other discourses, there is the ever present message in Barkers narrative, which is, “Not So Value Free”.  Namely, those interpreting the beliefs of NRMs are somehow assumed to be: afraid of the unfamiliar, ignorant or badly informed.

NAMING THE PHENOMENON

B. After some dialogue with a fellow traveller in the audience, the presenter informed us, that the term New Religious Movements originated, from a discourse with sociologists, who wanted to find a less judgmental term than cult.  There was the argument that the more pejorative name of “cult,” was not appropriate; as there was no evidence that NRMs were any more harmful because they were “new”. She pointed out that some movements claimed to go back thousands of years, but were still new to the West.

F. The difference arises here because the term New Religious Movements has no relevance in the context of understanding cultism, from a mind control perspective.  As I explained to Eileen Barker, during our interaction, you may as well use the term “New Ice Skating Movement”.  The point from my perspective is we are not referring to any specific group or sphere of society whether new or old, when speaking about cultism.   We are essentially talking about “Destructive Processes” which may be present in one to one relationships, or any collectivities of people, whether big or small.  From a time perspective, I believe, the historical roots of “Cultism” can be found in the classical religious and political systems of the world, and are by no means absent from contemporary expressions of the same.

INTERPRETING THE PROBLEM

B. History is full of instances in which citizens with a vested interest in preserving the status quo have greeted anything new with suspicion and distrust.  This is certainly true so far as new religious movements (NRMs) are concerned.  Once alternatives to traditional beliefs and practices emerge, it is not long until the cry goes up insisting something ought to be done about the ‘cult’ or ‘sect’ that is threatening not only individuals but the very fabric of society.  The old Testament is full of instances testifying to this: the early Christians were thrown to the lions; the catarrhs were burned at the stake; ———–etc., etc. etc. — and no doubt will continue as long as there are those who claim to know (or deny) an Ultimate Truth.( Barker. web page 371)

F. Consistent with her introductory approach to writing and verbalizing on this subject, Barker uses a sociohistorical frame in which she draws analogies with past conflictual events and contemporary responses to that of new religious movements.  The question is: how accurate is the analogy? In the first instance, she has NRMs portrayed as victims.  Their only crime is that they are “NEW” and don’t comply with the status quo.   Their beliefs are described as simply, “unorthodox” a fairly neutral term, or to use her own words a “Value Free” term.  On the other hand, the concerned outsiders who object to cultic activities are portrayed as the villains, ready to turn on anybody who upsets the status quo. They are accused of claiming to know (or deny) an Ultimate Truth.  In other words, these categories are guilty of beliefs consistent with what Robert J Lifton describes as Ideological totalism, a key component of mind control or thought reform processes.  Sounds familiar, oh yes, this is the very thing NRMs are accused of by the concerned outsiders.

To make an analogy; of cause and effect relationships of division and conflict events, over such a wide expanse of geocultural spaces and historical epochs, based on the simple criteria, that the “new”, provokes the preservers of the status quo, to rebel with violence, must be open to serious critical analysis.  I think a more appropriate rationale for division and conflict in this context might be the Psychology documentary “Five Steps To Tyranny” Namely:  Create difference, Obedience to authority, Dehumanize the enemy, Suppress dissenting or opposing opinions, Suppress individuality, Foster the development of a group identity, while suppressing the individuals. This documentary is a must for anybody studying this subject, and is easily found on U Tube.

INFORMATION SEEKING

B. In the context of information seeking about NRMs or Cults, Barker gives the following examples of questions an inquirer might ask: A mother might, for example be worried to learn that the NRM her daughter had joined follows a strict vegetarian diet, but is reassured to learn that it promotes celibacy.  The girl’s father might be unconcerned about the diet, but, hoping to have a grandchild be upset about the practice of celibacy.  Another parent is anxious that her son will not achieve eternal salvation as he has rejected the Christian faith in which he was raised, yet she might be relieved he has stopped taking dangerous drugs.

F. What is interesting here is the choice of questions Barker suggests might be asked.

After twenty years in this field I can guarantee that: parents, children of parents, siblings, concerned friends, of those who are exposed to mind control environments will want to ask questions relating to the following:  changes in personality, life goals, sense of identity and social interaction. Also, questions might take the form of will they drop out of the education system; donate their savings to the group; develop a one world perspective; marry somebody at the whim of a so called guru, see the world as a battlefield between good and evil forces; develop irrational fears about the nature of reality;  feel unnecessary guilt and shame for not living up to some puritanical principles; come to expect that the most horrific things will happen to them if they leave the group; allow their activities to be monitored by other members of the group; come to believe that chanting will guarantee their future needs, without making concrete plans; vacillate between cult and precult identities, suffer loss of personal autonomy; shift their source of influence from family and friends to those within the hierarchal system of the group.

REPRESENTATION OF PERSPECTIVES

B. During our interchange the presenter stated. By and large people in NRMs are decent, kind, people.

F. As I stated during the interchange that is something we can agree on.  However I would qualify that by saying. This is mostly true when people are expressing their pre- cult or true identity, it is just not always the case, if they are expressing a ‘cultic or group identity’.

B. Under the title “What Should Be Done” on her web paper Barker states: Opinions about what exactly needs to be done about NRMs vary according to time and place and individuals.  For some the movements and their members should be obliterated altogether; they should be outlawed or “liquidated” which frequently results in members going underground, risking imprisonment or even death.  A second position is that NRMs should be subject to special laws which restrict their practices (not allowing them to become legal entities— Barker, 372-373

B. Yet another position ( generally held by the governments of North America, Britain, the Netherlands and Scandinavian countries- and Inform) is that of NRMs should be treated in just the same way as all other citizens in a democratic country.

F. My experience and research in this field would indicate that those who advocate extreme responses would be in a small minority particularly amongst the concerned, who realize, it’s their own kin or friends, that are as much part of the groups as anybody else.  The enemy here is not people or groups per se; it is about debilitating psychological dynamics and subtle unethical systems of influence within an environment.  I would also contend that: denial, diminishing or trivializing the problem is not helpful to anybody. If the problem can be properly identified and named for what it is, those affected can at least make appropriate responses.  I believe this is why Eileen Barker, Inform and those of similar persuasion have contributed greatly to the problem, and the suffering of all concerned.

With respect to equality of citizenship, there is no argument, there are no special categories if their is to be regulation or laws, introduced to curtail mind control activities. Barker, has asked the question: Why Scientology is banned in Germany and nowhere else? They may not be banned but I expect many have become aware of their cultic activities. Besides, Germany is probably more aware, of the dangers of authoritarian type groups than anybody else.

B. In her analysis of responses to NRMs, Barker accused those who attributed terms such as, mind control and brainwashing, of using bland generalized explanations. She further stated there was no diagnostic or scientific evidence to support these claims. Claims which she dismissed with a tone and wave of the hand, which would suggest they belonged to the Looney bin.  On the other hand she presented research carried out by her and others, as scientifically objective to a point, where they were beyond reproach.

F. Now, I am more than acutely aware that terms like: cult, brainwashing and mind control can be like red rags to a bull, when in dialogue with a member of a mind control group.  However, when a professional scientist responds to such a central theme and plank in the research findings of significant others in this field; without even the slightest attempt at explanation of the terms; it can only be interpreted as deliberate misrepresentation by way of denigration and omission.  As pointed out in my introduction, the scholars who have researched and written most extensively on this subject are amongst the most respected in the world in their field.  I confronted Baker about these issues in the following dialogue.

F. In your hour long presentation there was a noticeable lack of balance:  You dismissed the issue of mind control without any attempt to explain what the term might signify.  For example you could have simply listed Lifton’s eight psychological themes and their relevance to thought reform or brainwashing.

B. Lifton— “never’ used the term brainwashing

F. Yes he did. This is not true.

B. No matter what I say, you are not going to listen.

F. What about Festinger’s “Cognitive Dissonance Theory” could you not have given just a short description of why mind control theorists claimed; Emotional control, thought control, behaviour and information control were relevant to the understanding of a cultic environment.  What about Zimbardo’s “situational theory and the pressure to role play. Or simply say something of the controversial process’s which might be going on in a group.

B. You have not read my writings. I do include processes in my writings.

F. I tried to interrupt to make the point that it was not her work that was at issue in this context but her failure to give a balanced representation of the work of others.  There was an attempt to incorporate here, rather than address the issue of balanced presentation.  With respect to the accusation that I had not read her work, I have read and researched extensively in this field. Research which included attending talks given by Inform delegates. As I pointed out, in the context of finding information, her work was the first recommended to me by Fr. Martin Tierney of ‘Dialogue Ireland’.  Unfortunately as I related to her, the writings did not resonate with my experience.  As regards the accuracy of Lifton’s use of the term brainwashing, I will let the quote speak for itself:

“A discussion of what’s most central in the thought reform environment can lead us to a more general consideration of the psychology of human zealotry.  For in identifying, on the basis of this study of thought  reform, features common to all expressions of ideological totalism, I wish to suggest a set of criteria against which any environment may be judged- a basis for answering the ever recurrent question “ Isn’t this just like brainwashing’?”  (Lifton, R. 1989, “Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism, Ch 22, P 420)

On the issue of Zimbardo’s work, and its association with mind control I provide the following Quote: “ Effective mind control exists in the most mundane aspects of human existence: the inner pressure to be bonded to other people, the power of group norms to influence behaviour, and the power of social rewards such as smiles, praise, a gentle touch, “ (Zimbardo, P. 1980,  Reprinted from USA TODAY)

SOCIOLOGICAL FRAMEWORK

F. Since understanding cultism, is something of a mine field for those seeking Information and Inform is such an influential player, I posed the following Question to Eileen Barker: “Have you considered the possibility that your research method might lack the anthropological depth and psychological awareness to reveal the true nature of the phenomenon?”

B. She explained that her research was most scientific, impartial and objective in the most glowing of terms. In her visual presentation she showed the mass wedding of Moonie followers in a most favourable light.

F. You account for mass weddings and suicides by using statistics based on quantitative analysis which show that these events occur in no less a scale in the rest of society.  If I were to stand outside the gates of Maynooth College next Monday morning and asked a thousand students if they would participate in a mass wedding and marry somebody they never met in their life; what do you suppose the statistics would reveal? Do you not think they would have to go through some type of process before accepting such an arrangement?

B. Arranged marriages are common in many cultures and are on no bigger or less a scale.

F. My contention here is: Barkers use of qualitative data to explain what extreme events in cultic environments are simply inappropriate or at the least inadequate. As anthropologists are aware arranged marriages among kin are bound up with all kinds of kinship relationships, survival, and the reproduction of the collective clan.  The gathering of eight hundred people, to marry at the behest of a guru, is of a totally different genre, and requires a separate type of research.  Likewise,  assisted mass suicides as happened in Jonestown, Waco, Heaven’s Gate, California, etc. cannot simply be rationalized by simple statistical data. I would also question the validity of using such methods for ascertaining how many people stay in groups and over what periods as a method of refuting mind control. From my experience it’s not a numbers game.  It is more a questions of discovering who is internalizing the belief systems; how that is achieved, and the consequences for the same.  From my observation of what occurs in cultic environment, I would argue that these events are a gross abuse of human freedom and human rights.

SUMMARY

To say that Eileen Baker’s presentation on NRMs was biased against those who oppose her position would be a gross understatement of fact.  I will summarize with my key objections.

1. There was a strong message in her narrative that her research was of the highest scientific quality, presented almost entirely as facts, rather than findings. Informs web site is presented in a similar vein.

2. No attempt was made to balance the information presented, by even the smallest objective commentary, from the writings of those, with an opposing point of view.

3. Concepts such as brainwashing and mind control were presented as unproved concepts with no scientific validity.   Kind of hair brained ideas, presented in opposition to her own scientifically validated research.  This was done with no reference to the esteemed academics who have written extensively on the subject or the classic experiments which support how people can be controlled or otherwise manipulated, against their best judgments and self interests. For Example: ( Milligram, “obedience to authority” Asche, “ group compliance”  Zimbardo, “Stanford Prison Experiment” situational compliance, How the human mind can be influenced to act creatively or destructively. Lifton: “Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism” Ch 22, Eight psychological themes present in a thought reform or brainwashing environment.

4. No attempt was made to give any explanation of what thought reform processes might consist off. Even a few sentences in an hour long presentation would suffice to give balance. No attempt, to give the names of professional scholars who have written on the subject, from a position of experience, and not of her point of view. Scholars such as Margaret Singer, Stephen Hassan, Janja Lalich, etc.

5. Claims that “people who oppose new religious movements make exaggerated statements. Such as:  people who join new religious movements are so brainwashed and zomped they can’t leave, or, can never recover from the brainwashing”.  The point here is I am sure people have made such claims, but if it’s used as a general comment, about people who oppose her position, it is a misrepresentation of facts. For Example,  the above authors have given very measured information with respect to the issue of recovery, from involvement, with closed authoritarian groups.

6. A visual presentation of the mass Moonie wedding was presented as a kind of mass cupid like celebration.  It was pointed out that the marriages were arranged by Moon, but no reference to the ethics of such behaviour.

7. A graphic image of the bombing of an Iskcon temple. No images of atrocities committed by cultic groups, or no psychological explanation of how a cycle of violence can be created.

The presentation got a very warm reception. And I have no doubt; many would have formed the view that NRMs are as benign as any other section of society.

I hope I have addressed the balance somewhat by posting this article

I make no apology for my open criticism of Eileen Barker’s and the Inform position on this subject. However, I do not claim to have all the answers and would agree that an interdisciplinary approach to the study of this subject is the only way forward.

I will also finish with a quote I heard from Louis Carroll:

“You have a fine way with words said Alice to the March Hare, you seem to be able to make words mean, whatever you want them to mean. Oh said the March Hare, you see:  The only question is, “Who Is Master”.

Michael Farrell MA NUI Maynooth

Cultic Support Ireland

Email: michael@culticsupport.com

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