JAPA – The truth hurts – don’t shoot the messenger

 

I’d just like to make some observations to the posts that Sinead Tynan put up recently, I’m sure other people are thinking along these lines.

JAPAsite Sinead Tynan

Firstly, wasn’t she a senior teacher in Japa Ireland , teaching for 7 years?

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In the post Sinead Tynan says:

“In late Feb of this year 2018 I received a phone call alerting me to allegations of a sexual nature against individuals who were Teachers of Japa Meditation…….upwards of 30 complaints made to an Ex Japa Teacher in another area of the country. “

There was a write up on Dialogue Ireland months before that, regard Shashi and Freya Watson, was it half a year before that, wasn’t she aware of that ? A  court case involving a couple in Nenagh and Japa, was she not aware of that, being from Nenagh?

She said she felt obligated to make the other teachers aware at that time– what about the students, what about the students who had left??

Did anyone bother their arse to consider publically telling the hundreds of students involved ? I think not.

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Anyway it is now July….. !! We have not heard a peep publically from any teacher?

And there has been a trip to India since February!!.

Now some ex member has written a book about Japa.

The same day this news was posted she comes out All Guns blazing   (but firing in the wrong direction)

Why does she seem to be attacking Mike Garde??

Hey, wasn’t he the only one who actually published anything publically??

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She said that she couldn’t come forward publically in Feb, but how come she can come forward now? Maybe it took a while to get the head around it.

Who does she think is sensationalising the story? Some forum? Dialogue Ireland?

She doesn’t believe that what was written was the truth. ?? Many would disagree with her, especially those that had the courage to tell their story, in order to share with others.

No need to sensationalise these stories – they are sensational.

This is why people who want to get the word out are better to go to an organisation such as Dialogue Ireland. Safely and anonymously, with a professional who has studied theses matters. To the papers this will be like manna from heaven -They would eat you up.!!

 

She seems to think that there was only the few obvious “baddies” in the whole group?? The rest are totally innocent??

“The teachings of the lineage I trained in were not the difficulty; the people who chose to manipulate those teachings for their own benefit and gain are the issue. It is the same everywhere, people destroy, people manipulate.”

Is it the same everywhere, people destroy, people manipulate??  But not in every environment is it allowed to continue. Do you think, regarding all allegations of abuse that this happened in an otherwise healthy group environment? No doubt it was the unhealthy environment that enabled the alleged abuses to take place. And not only to take place but to continue. Not only to continue but not to be reported. And not only that, BUT WHEN THEY WERE REPORTED THEY WERE DISMISSED OR THOUGHT OF AS  HEALINGS?????

It seems people were trained to doubt themselves more and more and  to trust their teachers more than themselves??

Regarding Sinead Tynan’s opinions and attacks on Dialogue Ireland.

An organisation set up in order to help Victims in these situations:

Does she think that it is” gratifying” to hear reports from people that they were abused?

Does she honestly think this is done for glorification? ????? You think that any of this brings glorification?

No one is a winner here; they are trying to protect people by exposing the truth.

And the truth is hard to come by right now, when so few want to come forward with it.

This is what his charity is for. How do you expect Dialogue Ireland to get the truth, in order to educate people. They welcome information, for people who want to come forward. Do you thing they are going to get it from a Crystal Ball or in a Vision???  This is the real world.

You think that Dialogue Ireland are not putting themselves in the firing line for the people who want to deny the truth?

Would you want this job? Would you be strong enough?

You said yourself, in your post that when you sent out the email to the teachers in Feb, detailing your reasons for leaving and the revealing of allegations,”that It provoked an immediate response of both a positive and a negative nature, some listened some didn’t. ……The individual who takes a stand takes a risk which few will take…. I could easily have just walked away and said nothing, but that is not who I am……..We became pariahs”

Is this not what you are doing to Mr Garde? Taking an aggressive stand?

Attacking, not just a Charity which exists to assist Victims, but  him personally in your post?

Maybe you should use that same “behaviour of decency”, that you claim is lacking in someone else?

You do not know everyone’s experience, nor do you have the right to tarnish him or his charity. I have heard nothing but good reports myself and found him and his site more than helpful.

You asked yourself in your post, when talking about yourself “so what happens to the whistleblowers?”

Now you know what happens to the whistleblowers,’ just look at your own reaction to the main whistle blower.

It alarms me why someone would seem so hell bent against / personally attacking someone who is trying to bring out the truth.

I wonder why you are being so defensive against an organisation which helps victims

Surely there are more important things to concentrate on now, the next step, constructively?

Why not use this energy and direct it towards the real victimisers, if you are going to attack anyone?

Why not use this energy in a positive and helpful way,

You could call a Public Press conference to tell people why you have left Japa.?

One could publish anonymously a post or a  testimony on Dialogue Ireland, for example to describe how, how one was completely hoodwinked,  felt used and devastated  when one started  to hear about the allegations, if that’s how one felt? How one recommended hundreds of student to go to India and then found out the truth afterwards?

It is an extremely dangerous thing to attempt to tarnish, the only forum that is providing support to ex members. An organisation that helps Victims. This is a charity organisation with a professional, and specifically set up to help people in this situation.

You as a teacher, still have influence over people in the group, it is a very dangerous and irresponsible thing to influence people away from the only independent organisation that they can freely contact if they wish.  This organisation is providing guidance and information that people need. It is providing a safe anonymous space for people to tell their stories.

They have a right to constitutionally protect the victims that come forward.

No one has put up anything publically about Japa Ireland –  only Dialogue Ireland –

No one has been putting hours and effort into researching and publishing the truth. Do you think this is easy work?

Regarding those people who have gone to the effort to tell their story, this is their truth.

You think that it is easy? Some of these students saw the truth before a lot of other people saw it. Before any teacher saw the truth.

These stories are valuable.

Womens stories, Mens stories.

And regarding all these women came forward in Jan 2018 regarding the allegations of sexual abuse?

Who knows, maybe some of these women that come forward, got a bit of courage to speak their truthas they started to question things after seeing testimonials on Dialogue Ireland?

Before this there was nothing accessible to people. I know that other people’s testimonials helped me massively.  Finally I could hear someone else’s truth and it was similar to mine.

Mr Garde is there to report the  truth. He is qualified in this area. He is helping people by publishing the truth. By offering a safe and anonymous place for people to tell there stories. And by pointing them to the right resources if they want it

It can be frightening to admit the truth of what happened to you to another person. It can feel embarrassing for someone to admit that they were taken in by this group that they allowed themselves to be manipulated.  It feels very scary to make that first call, because at each stage of admitting it to someone else, you are also admitting it to your self.

Once you start to admit it to yourself, then say it aloud, then tell someone else. It bring all kinds of fear with it, as it is scary. It take times to get courage again, it takes time for you to settle into your truth, the reality. So yes, people may ring in and then afterwards feel afraid, or doubt themselves again, but it’s not because they are afraid of the person that they have reported it to. It’ might be because it just a difficult thing to do. I’ve been through this so I know from experience,

Plus there’s the old Bad Energy trick.  Yeah the bad energy vibe might be hurled at you! Or the Japa Masters are going to know you are telling on them… With all their psychic powers.

But none of these great psychics saw this coming , did they?

That old negative energy scare tactic will cease to worry you once you have left the mindset behind.

The old mental control.

A bit like a sinister twist on the “if you’re a bad boy Santy will know, he knows if you’re good or bad “. But we’re not children any more are we?

What if one woman had left the group a few years ago in fear and has no contact with the group. What if this one woman was abused and she now considers deplorable and is severely traumatised about this. What if she had told a teacher that she trusted and they dismissed her? What if she is feeling suicidal as she feels that there is something wrong with her and is unable to see that what was done to her was wrong? What if she is not made aware of cults and cultic influence and how it works?

What if she is all alone in this, and afraid to tell those nearest to her because she is ashamed? And cannot understand what has happened, how she was manipulated? What if these thoughts are making her suicidal? What if she has never ever heard that the same thing has happen to someone else in the group and that it is wrong? And what was done to them was wrong? She will never hear that others went through the same thing without the publications of Dialogue Ireland and various ex students who told their stories. .

What if one day she looks up Dialogue Ireland and sees other people’s testimonies? Now she begins to understand and relate.  This connection could save her mind. This could save her life.

 

 

 

 

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  1. Oh yes Japa students will definitely be ticking a fair few of these boxes!!

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  2. For those that are still of two minds, have a read of this and see how many boxes you can tick.

    How Thought Reform works
    THE PURPOSES AND TACTICS OF COERCIVE PERSUASION

    by the late Margaret Thaler Singer, Ph. D.

    Coercive persuasion or thought reform as it is sometimes known, is best understood as a coordinated system of graduated coercive influence and behavior control designed to deceptively and surreptitiously manipulate and influence individuals, usually in a group setting, in order for the originators of the program to profit in some way, normally financially or politically.

    The essential strategy used by those operating such programs is to systematically select, sequence and coordinate numerous coercive persuasion tactics over continuous periods of time. There are seven main tactic types found in various combinations in a coercive persuasion program. A coercive persuasion program can still be quite effective without the presence of ALL seven of these tactic types.

    TACTIC 1. The individual is prepared for thought reform through increased suggestibility and/or “softening up,” specifically through hypnotic or other suggestibility-increasing techniques such as: A. Extended audio, visual, verbal, or tactile fixation drills; B. Excessive exact repetition of routine activities; C. Decreased sleep; D. Nutritional restriction.

    TACTIC 2. Using rewards and punishments, efforts are made to establish considerable control over a person’s social environment, time, and sources of social support. Social isolation is promoted. Contact with family and friends is abridged, as is contact with persons who do not share group-approved attitudes. Economic and other dependence on the group is fostered. (In the forerunner to coercive persuasion, brainwashing, this was rather easy to achieve through simple imprisonment.)

    TACTIC 3. Disconfirming information and nonsupporting opinions are prohibited in group communication. Rules exist about permissible topics to discuss with outsiders. Communication is highly controlled. An “in-group” language is usually constructed.

    TACTIC 4. Frequent and intense attempts are made to cause a person to re-evaluate the most central aspects of his or her experience of self and prior conduct in negative ways. Efforts are designed to destabilize and undermine the subject’s basic consciousness, reality awareness, world view, emotional control, and defense mechanisms as well as getting them to reinterpret their life’s history, and adopt a new version of causality.

    TACTIC 5. Intense and frequent attempts are made to undermine a person’s confidence in himself and his judgment, creating a sense of powerlessness.

    TACTIC 6. Nonphysical punishments are used such as intense humiliation, loss of privilege, social isolation, social status changes, intense guilt, anxiety, manipulation and other techniques for creating strong aversive emotional arousals, etc.

    TACTIC 7. Certain secular psychological threats [force] are used or are present: That failure to adopt the approved attitude, belief, or consequent behavior will lead to severe punishment or dire consequence, (e.g. physical or mental illness, the reappearance of a prior physical illness, drug dependence, economic collapse, social failure, divorce, disintegration, failure to find a mate, etc.).
    Another set of criteria has to do with defining other common elements of mind control systems. If most of Robert Jay Lifton’s eight point model of thought reform is being used in a cultic organization, it is most likely a dangerous and destructive cult. These eight points follow:

    Robert Jay Lifton’s Eight Point Model of Thought Reform

    1. ENVIRONMENT CONTROL. Limitation of many/all forms of communication with those outside the group. Books, magazines, letters and visits with friends and family are taboo. “Come out and be separate!”

    2. MYSTICAL MANIPULATION. The potential convert to the group becomes convinced of the higher purpose and special calling of the group through a profound encounter/experience, for example, through an alleged miracle or prophetic word of those in the group.

    3. DEMAND FOR PURITY. An explicit goal of the group is to bring about some kind of change, whether it be on a global, social, or personal level. “Perfection is possible if one stays with the group and is committed.”

    4. CULT OF CONFESSION. The unhealthy practice of self disclosure to members in the group. Often in the context of a public gathering in the group, admitting past sins and imperfections, even doubts about the group and critical thoughts about the integrity of the leaders.

    5. SACRED SCIENCE. The group’s perspective is absolutely true and completely adequate to explain EVERYTHING. The doctrine is not subject to amendments or question. ABSOLUTE conformity to the doctrine is required.

    6. LOADED LANGUAGE. A new vocabulary emerges within the context of the group. Group members “think” within the very abstract and narrow parameters of the group’s doctrine. The terminology sufficiently stops members from thinking critically by reinforcing a “black and white” mentality. Loaded terms and clichés prejudice thinking.

    7. DOCTRINE OVER PERSON. Pre-group experience and group experience are narrowly and decisively interpreted through the absolute doctrine, even when experience contradicts the doctrine.

    8. DISPENSING OF EXISTENCE. Salvation is possible only in the group. Those who leave the group are doomed.

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