From Comm2Post: thesurvivorsclub8 gets down and dirty.

Here is a someone who has come out of the School of Philosophy and Economic Science.


Hi there,

I’ve been wondering when someone would get around to discussing the ‘Maiden City Moonies!’ I have had experience of this particular group, and it turned out to be one of those things you do and wish you’d made more enquiries first. I got away from it after the initiation ceremony, which was bizarre to say the least, but also very unsettling.

I’ve spoken to a number of people since who also managed to get away, and we’re all of the same mind. Glad to get away from it and embarrassed to ever have been involved. It’s funny, so little is known about this group, my alarm bells should have been ringing when I realised there was so much secrecy surrounding it. One lecturer was positively evangelical about the need to maintain secrecy, tell nothing and ask nothing. It was for me a frustrating exercise being here. They espouse an ethos of open dialogue, but it was almost impossible to get a question answered. It became clear that some of the ‘lecturers’ were only capable of reading from ready prepared notes which they referred to as the material. They often though could not deal with being questioned, usually just throwing it out to other members of the class. There was always someone who liked the sound of their own voice and they usually ended up diverting attention away from the original question.

I would be really interested to know if anyone else experienced what I did. Do any of the following comments ring a bell with you?

  1. You’d make a great class tutor. ( Even though you haven’t a clue what you’re doing!!!)


  1. Oh, you really get this, you’re a natural.


  1. This will change your life forever, it will never be the same again! ( When asked what this meant you were told all will become clear.)


  1. Judge nothing, question everything. (Then risk being smacked down verbally in front of the class. )


  1. Everyone can achieve a state of permanent happiness by getting rid of the ties that bind. ( This was never fully explained but I was aware of plenty of rumours!)


  1. You must devote time every single day to meditation, nothing else in your life is more important than doing this.


  1. When it came to handing over money, no amount was ever fixed but you were told to ‘donate’ enough that it hurts.

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I’m trying to remember all of the weirdness around this organisation but I have done a pretty good job of letting go of a lot of the nonsense they tried to cram into me. I am absolutely sure that there was a steady drip feed of coercion going on, it was actually quite disturbing to see the way some people were falling under its spell. I’m astonished that in this day and age people are so gullible or maybe it’s just that the SPES is expert at targeting vulnerable/suggestible people. Who knows?

I’m just interested to find out what others have experienced. It’s definitely one of the weirder things I’ve done, and with no wish to repeat it. One friend said of the group we were in, “there’s a wee want!” That about summed it up, but I have been disturbed by some of the other stuff I’ve heard, and if it’s appearing here now, maybe I’m not the only one. I’ve wondered about some of the people in the hierarchy, and the influence/control they have. Also the money has been a source of interest between friends of mine, along with the absolute need to exert authority over the members. Does this seem familiar to anyone?

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