Tuam refuses to discuss the issues around the House of Prayer

Below you will find the correspondence between the Director of Dialogue Ireland and the Archdiocese of Tuam. We have tried for years to get a meeting with the Archbishop and his spokesperson Fintan Monahan blocks all communication. We have tried for some time to break this log jam without success.

Fintan M

Thu, 29 Oct 2015 16:40:29

Dear Fintan,

As you know I have been sending mails to you to the wrong address for years.
A month ago I sent you a mass of mails and would be grateful if you could acknowledge reception of them. I also told you I was going to be meeting Archbishop Martin next week and wondered if I could meet up with Archbishop Neary to discuss the issues around the House of Prayer as well.

AB Neary

You might have noticed Gearoíd Dullea proposed that I contact you and Armagh in early June.

Whether the Archbishop can meet or not it would be good to receive an update in regard to the book I sent you by Kevin Symonds which proposes a theological process which goes beyond your current canonical position of non recognition. Also which canon lawyer do you rely on in the Archdiocese and who would be the current theologian assisting the Archbishop in the task of evaluating the actions of the House of Prayer? The reason I raise this is in the letter I received from IEC yesterday it said that Archbishop Neary updated the bishops on the current position and then proceeded to give them as news what was a press release made in 1998? I am very much aware that you and Christina Gallagher regard the HofP as a private business, nonetheless she is still drawing people to Achill on the basis she is a Catholic in good standing. There is nothing in any of your statements too date that questions her bone fides.
Furthermore, every week people stop in Knock en route to Achill for communion having felt that their local parish does not adequately represent Catholicism, otherwise why would they go to Achill on an 8 hour round trip bus journey? They have been led to believe that Christina represents a deeper more profound version of Catholicism. Nothing in their reception in Knock gives them any other idea. They are clearly as vulnerable adults under undue influence.

Knock
We try to explain this here:
https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/about/cultism/
https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/category/christian/house-of-prayer/

My estimates is that there are about 20, 000 persons affected by this scam in Ireland alone. The book which you have had by Jim Gallagher for over 6 years gives clear evidence which could be used to determine Christina’s destiny. Also I talked to an eye witness yesterday who confirmed to me that eye witnesses have visited you to give evidence of simony, financial scams, adultery, the false use of the stigmata etc., the use of magical mystification to extract money from Catholics. They asked you to act without success too date. I stress this is not an issue for the Gardai but for the competent ecclesiastical authority to act on as it is involves the use of Religion to extract money. Please do not use the logic of Sinn Fein which tells people to go to the Gardai when it is clear they are so under the influence they will not do so.
Also the way this triangle works is this. Christina managed to bring a very intelligent priest who was very vulnerable under undue influence when he had been a whistle blower and was treated with contempt. He in turn gives the authoritative nod to what she is doing and vulnerable Catholics therefore believe Christina is genuine and flock to the place. The local economy thrives in the context of this business and finally loyal Catholics from all over the country and in the USA and Mexico are taken in. Meanwhile she has enriched herself and added property to property. You have done nothing other than say you can do nothing.
While the Episcopal Conference was on last month Fr McGinnity was actually undermining the unity of the Catholic Church in the States by actually advancing an recognised private business. Now it is an issue in so far as on your web site you have not done anything to warn anyone that they as Catholics should not go near the HofP and place on the public record that Fr McGinnity is not to enter your diocese. You claim you have it on your site. You do hidden as anyone can see.
Here is your site and do not forget these elderly people are told the newspapers and the internet are of the devil so the likelihood of them looking at is limited.
It still does not do anything that anyone would see as a warning to the faithful in fact you actually say they are acting in good faith. Please read your documents which are totally out of date and do not take into account evidence you have in your possession that they are not.

http://www.tuamarchdiocese.org/

How would you know there is a problem in Achill from your web site?
You then have to click on Archdiocese and then in the menu the statements about the HofP are the second last item.

http://www.tuamarchdiocese.org/2009/12/house-of-prayer-achill/

In conclusion I will copy in Archbishop Martin as I will be meeting him in two capacities next week,
1. As head of the Episcopal Conference and as a result will hear from him about the how the bishops are assisting you in Tuam to resolve a theological and pastoral issue which is Michael Neary is the only competent authority charged with resolving the issue.
2. Secondly as representing the Archdiocese of Armagh where Fr McGinnity is a priest in good standing. Now as I represent over 50 families who have had ongoing loss of affection and communion with loved ones what he is going to do to address the open sore of Fr McGinnity refusing to keep out of your diocese, and also undermining the unity of the Catholic Church by his obstinate support of this clearly fraudulent visionary. Also this affects the Church in the States and Mexico.

GM Dean 1985Pic Fr McGinnityHouse_of_Prayer_Florida250                                                Texas House of Prayer.

I will also copy in Gearoíd Dullea.

I as an Anabaptist and the only Christian from any denomination fighting for the victims of the HofP ask you two questions?

What would Jesus say?

Also what would Pope Francis say, and what would have Pope Benedict or Saint John Paul II have said in regard to your pastoral response?

— Regards MIKE GARDE MA DIRECTOR DIALOGUE IRELAND TRUST

Fintan’s reply:

On 29/10/2015 16:44, Admin Tuam Archdiocese wrote:
Dear Mike,
Many thanks for your e-mails.
All that the Archbishop wishes to say on the issue of the House of Prayer are on the diocesan website in his three public statements.  If there is any change in that position in the near future – I will let you know.
With every good wish in your work.
Sincerely,
Fintan
17:02 Thursday 29th October
Dear Fintan,

Are you saying you are not going to actually read my email to you and bring it to the Archbishop’s attention?
Did you actually take the time to read it as you replied within 3 minutes?
I would ask you to reflect before you reply as you have so far managed to insult me as one of the items I addressed is your web site and other issues.
Surely you do not regard your response as corresponding to a sincere reply?
I will not copy in the others till I get a definitive reply from you, but your current response is an insult.

Regards

Mike

I sent this further email the following day:
Sent: Friday, 30 October, 2015 1:08:00 AM
Dear Fintan,

I am aware that you had likely left the office when I wrote my reply to your email.
You will find it below this mail.
If on the other hand you you have no intention of replying to my correspondence,
I will wait till 2 PM tomorrow and then post my email and your brief response as part of my response to the Episcopal Conference update on my blog. If you want to reconsider your position and will reply I am very happy to delay publication of my blog piece for as long as you need up until Tuesday of next week.

With every good wish as you carry out your duties of Diocesan Secretary,

Regards

Mike

30 Oct 2015 13:17
Dear Mike,
Many thanks for your good wishes this morning.
I am surprised that you feel insulted by the reply last evening, no insult being intended.
Just to restate the diocesan position that the Archbishop has issued three public statements on the House of Prayer and the position has not changed since then.  If there is any change on that I will gladly let you know.
Wishing you a most pleasant weekend.
Fintan
Dear Fintan,

I am going to give one last effort to replying to you and in light of your reply will then put this correspondence in the public domain and let the public decide on whether you have replied to my email or not. I will reference your exact text so that there is no misunderstanding.
Many thanks for your good wishes this morning.

This was in reply to this comment: “With every good wish in your work.”
This was intended to be ironic as you had no intention in doing anything to assist my work, by stonewalling a detailed email to you. My email was based on reflections over the past months and in light of finding you totally unresponsive on the phone.

I am surprised that you feel insulted by the reply last evening, no insult being intended.

Yesterday I explained to you in what way it was insulting. Let me remind you. “Are you saying you are not going to actually read my email to you and bring it to the Archbishop’s attention? Did you actually take the time to read it as you replied within 3 minutes?

It is highly unprofessional to reply to an email you have not read and where it has raised a number of issues which you are asked to reply to. It is also highly unprofessional to refer one to a web site which is also part of the issues I tried to raise with you in the email. I had raised the point that the section on the House of Prayer is not clearly visible as you claimed a few months ago.  If you have a group like the House of Prayer who are causing problems in your Diocese on your site it is essential that prominence is given to it for the public to access it. Certainly this is the case when you have not edited it since December 2009? There is no warning or informing Catholics to not attend there. There are no written leaflets left at Knock to warn pilgrims on their way to Achill they are treading on dangerous ground.

Achill_House_02

http://www.tuamarchdiocese.org/category/archdiocese/statements_house_of_prayer_achill/
But I need to stop I have already made these points. I would have thought this would have been a normal response, I will bring your concerns to the Archbishop’s attention and we will get back to you with an answer. Also material being on the web site does in no manner answer the request I made to meet him to represent the families who are driven into the ground at your lack of response to a major tragedy. Of course the insult is intended as you have repeated it today.

Just to restate the diocesan position that the Archbishop has issued three public statements on the House of Prayer and the position has not changed since then.  If there is any change on that I will gladly let you know.
I believe you have stated to this position to me on a number of occasions. I know his position and I was asking the Archbishop to meet to discuss his position and for you to answer the questions I have raised questioning this position. I have now sent them to you through correspondence on a number of occasions and you did not even give me the courtesy of a reply. I think the positions Kevin Symonds has advanced certainly makes your current position untenable. I know the Archbishop is a New Testament scholar but surely if he can’t address the issues I am raising you have competent people who can evaluate these issues.
Wishing you a most pleasant weekend.
This type salutation is actually a weapon rather than to be taken seriously. I will certainly have a pleasant weekend if you can actually agree to respond to my genuine attempt to dialogue with the serious issues that in my estimation affect over 20,000 people in this country and beyond. A genuine response also includes the right of you to say you refuse to engage. For a Catholic Archdiocese may I suggest the Petrine call is highly relevant in this context.

1 Peter – Chapter 3:15 Simply proclaim the Lord Christ holy in your hearts, and always have your answer ready for people who ask you the reason for the hope that you have.

2 Responses

  1. Mary

    Jim you have been having a long break from here. I still have a file ready to use when the right time comes. Have you had a sex change operation? As now you are Mary? By the way did you get to know James in Greystones who has moved over to Achill?

    Submitted on 2015/11/06 at 5:55 pm I hope you read Sean Garvey or again do you think that anyone who writes here using a different name is myself? He spells it out for you does he not?

    I must congratulate Father Fintan on the manner in which he stood up against the bullying and intimidation tactcs of the resident anabaptist …who sees himself as “the last christian” and who seeks to bolster his shredded ego by distributing shabby literature to the leaders of The Catholic Church in Ireland.

    Was it you that organised the mass writing campaign of the groupies to write to the two Archbishops? Jim it is not going to work. Why? Because Tuam has not changed its mind about you they just do not want to go further than where I would like them to go. They are stuck on Non Recognition I am calling for excommunication and sending Fr McGinnity for help to break from the influence. Don’t think your problems are over you guys are top of the agenda of the next Bishops meeting in Maynooth in early December.It must be a real downer for you guys that the bishops see the 3 issues which confirm Christina is a dud.
    1. She is absolutely disobedient to her bishop.
    2. She had an affair, making her clearly not a person of holiness.
    3. She has enriched herself and is the owner of several properties one in your name Jim. You should be ashamed.

    Well done Father Fintan, you handled this bully with taste and good humour……
    the anabaptists asks in various blathering articles….”what would Jesus say”?

    I am glad you are reading them Jim as you might like Paul of Tarsus be converted. Yes what would Jesus say about Christina creating the stigmata using knitting needles. Tell her to call Keith Barry in for a chat.
    I note you left out the three popes as a Catholic or should we call you an Achillian ChrisGer

    ….and here is the question coming from an enraged man who cannot see the plank in his own eye.

    Rage is not what I feel for you but I understand the rage of the families you have conned. I am sure there are many failures in my life, but one of them is not the House of Prayer.

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  2. I must congratulate Father Fintan on the manner in which he stood up against the bullying and intimidation tactcs of the resident anabaptist …who sees himself as “the last christian” and who seeks to bolster his shredded ego by distributing shabby literature to the leaders of The Catholic Church in Ireland.
    Well done Father Fintan, you handled this bully with taste and good humour……
    the anabaptists asks in various blathering articles….”what would Jesus say”? ….and here is the question coming from an enraged man who cannot see the plank in his own eye.

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