Memories of what happens on a Tony Quinn Educo Seminar

This is a very special seminar for the devotees of the Messiah Tony. People like John Boyle from Boylesports were regular visitors. Recently we are not sure about John as he is completely sanitised his connection with TQ from his CV. Before he was telling people all his success was a result of TQ’s great programme, but now he is saying, what we said about 6 years ago that all his success resulted from his own entrepreneurial gifts.

https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2009/09/03/misattribution-john-boyles-view-of-tony-quinn/

One person told me how they had sold a property to go on the seminar and following the crash they not only lost everything but they had to walk away from a property in the Republic and start their lives again. There is only one winner TQ. Then there are devotees like Damien Twohig and his wife who really believe in Quinn’s mind games and they are his southern agents.

https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2013/08/09/new-minds-a-new-academy-or-just-the-old-educo-tapes/

Then in the old days people were given the name of a friendly bank and told to take out a loan under the guise that it was for a new car. They used to say is your life not worth more than a car? Now with the recession the Educo gyms are under pressure so those who take on jobs are on very low wages. They will be definitely told to go on seminars to advance their careers. The old method of getting money from people is no longer possible so likely the money will be deducted from future pay with the hope they become part of the Tony Quinn Empire. To begin with they will be looking at the people taking part in the seminar as totally over the top. Then gradually in the controlled environment they will blend in before coming back to Belize or Dublin or wherever singing from the Educo hymn sheet….

http://www.educoworld.com/upcoming-seminar-details-2-tony-quinn-ireland/

Next Tony Quinn Seminar Details

http://seminars@educoworld.com

The following are the venue details and confirmed travel dates for next upcoming seminar :

Seminar Venue: Le Meridien Hotel, Monte Carlo.
22 Avenue Princesse Grace
http://www.lemeridienmontecarlo.com/

Educo Personal and Business Model Seminar (Beginners)
Travel out – Wednesday 1st July 2015.
(Seminar commences 9.30am Thursday, 2nd July)
Travel back – Wednesday 15th July 2015.

For further information email: seminars@educoworld.com or call +353-1-850-0220.

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  1. There is a lot here that applies to Tony Quinn. The guru image is how he started.
    The False Guru Test
    John Smith—04/2006
    The Falst Guru test seems to have struck a cord here in the West because of the outrageous abuses and exploitation by gurus, many self-proclaimed and completely misguided.

    TAKE THE FALSE GURU TEST. If seven or more of the following describes your guru or spiritual teacher, then unfortunately he or she may not be be as enlightened or good for your soul as you would like to believe:

    1.States his or her own enlightenment: The wisest masters tend not to state their own enlightenment or perfection for they know that it is both unhelpful to themselves and to their students. The false teachers often make this claim because they have little else on offer to attract followers.

    2.Is unable to take criticism: False teachers strongly dislike either personal criticism or criticism of their teaching; they do not take kindly to ordinary unenlightened individuals questioning them. They or their organisations will even undertake multi-million dollar law suits to stop ex-members from spilling the beans.

    3.Acts omnipotently with no accountability: Some spiritual communities are run like concentration camps, with guru and his chosen ones acting like Gestapo officers. Unjust or outrageous behaviour by the guru is passed off as what is needed to help the followers grow (how kind). These are the dangerous gurus who have often severely damaged their students. A real master respects your will even if he or she understands that your particular decisions may not be in your interest, and he or she will act accountably to an ethical code of conduct.

    4.Focuses on enlightenment itself rather than teaching the path leading to it: It is amazing how much false gurus have to say about enlightenment. They argue their points in the same way that the scholars in the middle ages argued how many angels could sit on the head of a pin. Any fool can talk about the end goal because what is said is irrefutable to most of your listeners. What is skillful is guiding those listeners to having awakening within themselves. The real teacher focuses on the path and strictly avoids any talk on enlightenment.

    5.Does not practice what is preached: Contrary to spiritual myth, you don’t reach a point of realization whereby you can then start acting mindlessly. If a teacher preaches love and forgiveness, then he should act that way, at least most of the time, showing suitable regret for any lapses). If he teaches meditation, he should meditate. If he insists that his followers live in austere conditions, so should he.

    6.Takes the credit for a particular meditative or healing technique: The fact is that meditation and guided visualisation work. Anyone doing them will experience major changes, benefits and realizations. The false guru will try to own or trademark particular methods and techniques so that she has something unique to attract followers. And she will hijack the effects of meditation as the guru’s blessing rather than each individuals natural potential. Often the students or followers are forbidden from divulging the techniques to maintain a sort of intellectual property right, usually under the guise of needing the technique to be taught correctly.

    7.Specifically gives satsang or darshan when it is not part of his culture: Darshan is when the disciples or students of a master line up and to pass their master, who is usually seated, with either a bow or traditionally kissing their feet (yes it does happen). In the East, this is part of their culture and a normal thing to do to show respect and reverence (even children will kiss the feet of their fathers). However, here in the West, such copycat behaviour is a strong indication that the guru is acting a role. Satsang, on the other hand, means literally “the company of the Truth”. In a deeper sense it is an affirmation of the Guru-Disciple relationship in Eastern traditions. But some Western gurus will use this terminology because they are playing a role.

    8.Lives in total opulence: There is nothing wrong with living in luxury or being wealthy. But when that luxury turns to unnecessary opulence using funds that were not explicity donated for that purpose then you are probably dealing with a false guru. Money is collected from followers usually in the form of donations, and those donations are given as an act of love, appreciation and to help spread the influence of the master. However, a genuine master is more likely to use such wealth to lessen the suffering in this world, not to buy another yacht, private jet or Rolls Royce.

    9.Encourages or permits adoration from his followers: Avoid any group that focuses on the “master” themselves rather than the teachings or spiritual practices. This will be a hindrance to your self-realisation for your focus will be drawn outside of yourself, and usually indicates that there is not a lot more on offer than guru worship.

    10.Presents himself or herself overly fashionably and glamorously: Beware of masters who present glamour photographs of themselves and dress overly fashionably (whilst proclaiming that they have no ego and leading ego-death retreats). Yes it does happen!
    Demands love and devotion from their students: Keep clear of any master who demands love and devotion. One very well known Western guru stated, “Anyone who loves me is guaranteed enlightenment”! Real love and devotion is earned over time when we begin to really know the whole person and not their public image.

    11.Speaks with an Indian accent or vernacular when he is in fact a Westerner: Not sure how much this happens now but there are some high profile Western gurus who have (or had) Indian accents, mannerisms and vernacular. Unless they have genuinely spent considerable time in other cultures, they are probably playing out a role.

    12.Runs expensive miracle workshops and courses: You are unlikely to reach enlightenment after a few weekend workshops with cheesy titles. In our society of “must have now”, we want to be able to purchase spiritual development with minimal fuss. Also, avoid meaningless accreditation — it is often used merely to encourage followers to do more courses.

    13.Takes sexual advantage of his or her followers: This happens much more than many believe. It is not being prudish to include this one because when a follower falls under the spell of a guru he or she is likely to do anything for the Chosen One. It is only afterwards that it may dawn on the follower that his or her openness has been used and abused. This can be very psychologically scarring.

    14.Flatters you and treats you as very special: Sure we are all special in some ways, but this is one of the things that a false guru may do to hook a potential follower or to get a current follower to do a particular task. Nothing can be more intoxicating to the ego than to be selected by the master or leader (or any high profile person). A real master will stand back and allow you to make your decision whether to accept his or her teachings without trying to influence the process.

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  2. Great post Lucid. You are totally right. I struggled with the diets’ which I found unsustainable and frankly made me feel ill for the most part. I didn’t maintain any weight loss long term. I agree with you nothing is based on thorough scientific rigour. If you questioned or dare disagree you were a trouble maker. I have serious injuries which were partly caused by unqualified unprofessional trainers & I live with pain constantly now.

    TQ has mastered the art of persuasion and people sit in those rooms on seminars in a trance mesmerised by the carry on. He is a talented hypnotist but is in my view irresponsible in his usage of it. At no time does he try and understand the people in the room or take any responsibility for his actions.

    Keeping people isolated from friends and family for 2 weeks gives him a chance to get into your head. This is extremely dangerous, mobile phones were banned and having any contact with the outside world so you didn’t have anyone who might have been able to give you some balance & sensible advice.

    It is true that you can get coaching at a much-reduced price & without all the psychological effects. Most people who go onto these seminars have no idea what they are in for. They also don’t realise a lot of information that is conveyed is already available and by people who wouldn’t consider charging such ridiculous prices for so called advice.

    My life has been irrevocably been affected by Tony Quinn. I am still unable to discuss it with people I now know. I am unable to function in some situations which at one time would not be a problem and this has only been since I have been placed into a trance by TQ. I know there is a problem but I am unable to stop it. I would urge people to be very careful. I look at people who go onto stage shows and are hypnotised and I wonder how many of those people have problems later on with blockages.

    If this blog helps to prevent 1 person from going on these seminars or at least questioning what they are doing before going I would be happy. Please don’t be induced by blind faith it is very dangerous. TQ himself would always talk about opinions of others and not to listen to them but his techniques are not backed up by scientific rigour and at this time it is all we have and he himself is full of opinions.

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  3. I think anyone who is thinking about going on a seminar should read this. The eating regime explains why some womens weight is very heavy.

    “The seminars are held at some expensive location. At the Meridien Beach Hotel in Monte Carlo participants rise early for a fatty breakfast of rashers and pints of cream as part of a special ketone diet which is supposed to help them shed pounds. (Quinn doesn’t stay at the Meridien as he doesn’t like to socialise with his clients and, instead, takes an apartment at the nearby five-star Fairmont Hotel with Eve and Mary Power.There rooms cost up to €1,000 a night). Of course the diet helps them shed pounds – if you wanted to create an impact in your cult members minds would you not look for the latest ‘fad’ that is making people lose weight – discover Atkins – repackage it as the Tony Quinn Mind Power diet (my name not his) and then sit back and watch as people fell in love with you when they lost 6lbs of water mass in their first week at your seminar? A classic bait-and-switch tactic.
    A friend is on a diet that is more akin to Atkins than LCHF and we know that Atkins can cause several health problems as Atkins had not perfected it by the time of his death. Volek and Phinney did a lot of REAL science and produced amendments to the Atkins diet – they called it THE NEW ATKINS. I’ve read the book and can tell you that there are a lot of tweaks to the original Atkins diet that you might miss even with several readings of their work. Atkins himself said that a lot of his work though based on large numbers of patients was not properly conducted according to the scientific method. He said he was leaving it to others to do the research and prove the safety and efficacy of the diet and to modify it as necessary. He was going to concentrate on getting the word out and get as many people to lose weight as possible.
    My friend seems to think that he came up with the high fat diet at educo and yet some of us have been researching this for years – not willing to risk our lives and those of our families to something we’ve not properly understood. I fear that my friend is making the cardinal mistake and adding more than 50g of carbs into his high fat diet and/or more than 150g of protein. If he does that WHILE eating a lot of fat – he’s going to raise his insulin levels which will cause his cholesterol to jump up which could in turn cause heart complications within a matter of weeks. I worry that he may get a heart attack or a failed kidney as part of his dieting experiment. Worse he could develop a cancer in double quick time or tip over into Type II Diabetes. To complicate things this friend is NOT maintaining a controlled diet in which he measures blood parameters and weight and writes down EVERYTHING he eats – he says he does not need to – how do we know how much damage he’s doing? Are we to wait until something breaks to learn that what he was doing wrong?
    Some of my investors don’t read even though I’ve tried to get them to do so for a long, long time. Without reading how do you know what the findings are in the scientific community and how do you improve your knowledge base? If you only listen to what other people tell you, you only have opinions to guide you. Somebody says you have yeasts in your body – yes that’s true – we all have millions of organisms in our bodies – more than our own human cells. So what? Where is the large study that shows that those yeasts have affected X number of patients in a group of 20,000, 30,000 or more patients. Where is this data? Without it I cannot apply statistical tests to it to see if there really is a connection between yeast and disease. And then we need a group to repeat the experiment/study so we can see if it holds up. Then we need to divide up the experiment and see if we can prove smaller parts and narrow down the cause to the finest detail we can come up with and render in ourselves the satisfaction that we are indeed looking at something real. While in Florida I saw a guy selling ‘Egyptian Darkness’ in a bottle to so many people. Are you that gullible?
    I’ve written a little above; I’ll try to keep researching and wasting my time in your interests on this topic but you can do your own research also.”

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  4. The following information to many who attended the Tony Quinn Centre, 77 Eccles Street, Dublin

    Dangers of Meditation
    Posted by: grainne uaile ()
    Date: July 23, 2011 07:28PM

    [www.strippingthegurus.com]

    Dangers of Meditation
    “One often hears and reads about the dangers of Yoga, particularly of the ill-reputed Kundalini Yoga. The deliberately induced psychotic state, which in certain unstable individuals might easily lead to a real psychosis, is a danger that needs to be taken very seriously indeed. These things really are dangerous and ought not to be meddled with in our typically Western way. It is a meddling with Fate, which strikes at the very roots of human existence and can let loose a flood of sufferings of which no sane person ever dreamed. These sufferings correspond to the hellish torments of the chönyid state…” C. G. Jung, Introduction to The Tibetan book of the Dead *

    Dangers of Meditation

    Years ago when I was in Self Realization, I found a book at the local library, Living with Kundalini by Gopi Krishna. I thought it would be an exciting read, and actually it was just that. What I read rather frightened me because Gopi Krishna’s kundalini awaking left him seeking out help, but actually, no one could help him. I gave the book away, thinking to myself, Yogananda wouldn’t teach us a dangerous technique. Then one day I was on the Kriya Board, (Yogananda taught Kriya), and a poster was asking for help. I remember his talking about meditation and what he was feeling inside, and I thought, “This sounds just like Gopi Krisna’s experience. He was also talking about killing himself because of his bodily sensations, but he added that no doctor could help him, and those at SRF Headquarters told him that it can’t be from his Kriya practice because Kriya only gives you peace. I made a post to him and told him about Gopi Krishna, and that the Vedanta Society might be able to help him. The next day I came online to see if he had read my post, it had been deleted. They never wanted anyone to think that meditation was anything other than good. Did he see that post? I never forgot that man, and it has been over 20 years.

    Here is what I found again in Gopi Krishna’s book:

    “With the awakening of kundalini, the arrangement suffers a radical alteration affecting the entire nervous system,. In most cases it results in a great instability of the emotional nature and a great liability to aberrant mental conditions in the subject, mainly resulting from tainted heredity, faulty modes of conduct, or immoderation in any shape or forum.

    Leaving out the extreme cases, which end in madness, this generalization applies to all the categories of those in whom kundalini is congenitally more or less active, comprising mystics, mediums, men and women of genius, and those of an exceptionally high intellectual or artistic development. In the case of those in whom the awakening occurs all at once as the result of yoga or other spiritual practices, the sudden impact or powerful vital currents on the brain and other organs is often attended with grave risk and strange mental conditions, varying from moment to moment, exhibiting in the beginning the abnormal peculiarities of a medium, mystic, genius, and madman all rolled into one.”

    His experience:

    “…On the third day of the awakening I did not feel myself in a mood for meditation and passed the time in bed…I completely lacked the power to concentrate…

    For a few days I thought I was suffering from hallucinations…I passed every minute of the time in a state of acute anxiety and tension, at a loss to know what had happened to me and why my system was functioning in such an entirely abnormal manner…

    There was no remission in the current rising from the seat of kundalini. I could feel it leaping across the nerves in the back and even across those lining the front part of my body from the loins upwards…I felt as if I were looking at the world from a higher elevation than that from which I saw it before…

    The few brief intervals of mental elation were followed by fits of depression much more prolonged and so acute that I had to muster all my strength and willpower to keep myself from succumbing completely to their influence…

    I lost all feelings of love for my wife and children. I had loved them fondly from the depths of my being…”

    He sought out all kinds of gurus for help, but no one could help him, and this is the reason why I always say that even having a teacher may not help when something goes wrong in meditation because even the gurus of India couldn’t help.

    Then when I was in the Vedanta Society, I learned that those who practiced Kriya Yoga sometimes showed up at the Vedanta Society in mental pain or even physical from the practice of Kriya. The comment from the swami was something to the effect that it could harm your nervous system, and that that was one of the problems SRF members were having when they came to them for help. I also remember a couple coming to the fireside room where discussions took place every Sunday. It was obvious to me that the man had some emotional problems when he asked about the practice of pranayama breathing, which kriya is a form. He told the man that it was dangerous to practice it because it could harm your heart and lungs and in some cases cause insanity. (I had already stopped practicing Kriya, having had all initiations, some from SRF and some from Eugene Roy Davis, and I was glad.)

    Then I went to a Zen monastery, and I told the abbot about my experience in meditation when my mind expanded. He looked concerned and told me that it was dangerous to allow your mind to expand, that it could cause insanity. As if one could stop the process while meditating, and I knew I couldn’t, so I seldom meditated after that.

    It was then that I began doing research, and that is how I found the dissertation, Meditation-Related Psychosis that I have posted here in my blog.
    I also found a book by Dr. Margaret Singer, and so I am posting some of her findings. She was a famous psychologist who worked on court cases and also helped people to get out of cults as well as with those who had severe problems from meditating. Here is what she found.
    Cults in Our Midst by Dr. Margaret Singer, PhD

    By the Mid 1970s clinical reports of negative outcomes resulting from various mantra meditation programs began to dot the psychiatric literature. Clinicians reported that some mediators were finding themselves in self-induced altered states, wherein they felt unreal or found their surroundings unreal. Some persons became unemployable because they were unable to control these episodes. Other clinical report indicated that indiscriminate use of mantra meditation could precipitate more serious psychiatric problems ranging from depression and agitation to psychotic decompensation.

    In a series of studies, Leon Otis, a psychologist at Stanford Research Institute, pointed out that despite benefits for all who take up the practice as advertised by one meditation organization, his research proved otherwise. According to Otis the reverse is true. In fact, the number and severity of complaints are positively related to duration of meditation. Also not supported by research is the notion that the initial uncomfortable feelings are transient. Meditators reported continuing adverse side effects: they had become anxious, confused, frustrated, depressed, and/or withdrawn (or more so) since starting meditation.

    Another concern, explored by researchers Michael Murphy and Steven Donovan, is that advanced practioners rank high in suggestibility, meaning that their physical or mental state is easily influence by the process of suggestion. Whether they become more suggestible because of participation in meditation practices or are highly suggestible to being with, a state which might reinforce their continuation of the practice has not been determined. Either way, the suggestibility puts them at risk of losing personal autonomy.

    When meditators first reported experiencing depersonalization and derealisation (feeling removed from one’s body or as if one were watching oneself), it was believed that these altered states were connected to actual periods of meditation. Psychiatrists eventually recognized, however, that these were states of involuntary meditation, for want of a better name, that were intruding into the waking consciousness of meditators when they were not deliberately meditating. Unfortunately and much to the distress of some meditators a depersonalized state can become an apparently permanent mode of functioning, {with} the apparent long-term loss of the ability to feel strong emotions, either negative or positive.

    Meditation Causalities

    Based on interviewing or providing therapy to more than seventy persons who had meditated from four to seventeen years in various groups.

    None had a history of major mental disorders prior to participation in a meditation group.

    A few examples of members range of impairments some of which remain after many years out of the cultic group>

    1. Blackouts, lack of sensory filters, and anxiety attacks.

    John, age 36, meditated off and on for nine years. During the last 2 years of that time, he was encouraged to do intensives. Now he is living on public funds, having been diagnosed as mentally disabled and incapable of working. He suffers from fainting, blackouts, severe and frequent anxiety attacks, and exhaustion. He feels he no longer has protective barriers for his senses.

    2. Fog and space

    Lisa was in a meditation group for 13 years. During nine of those years, she suffered from unique dissociative experiences in which she would feel space out. Her level of functioning was poor.

    3. Altered states and memory difficulties

    Rick meditated for 17 years. He experienced his first distressing symptoms at his first advanced course, when over breathing and yogic exercises were added to his mantra meditation. He described states of euphoria; periods of dissociation, depersonalization, confusion, and irritability; and memory difficulties. He had difficulties with reading, memory, concentration, and focusing; had involuntary
    body shaking; and experienced frequent episodes of dissociation.

    Insert: Focusing programme is installed when they want you to do a particular task.

    3. Loss of boundaries

    Bruno, an architect in his 40s went to his first extended meditation after a year of initial brief meditation. He lost track of time and felt odd and not himself. He finally fled the course after an unsettling experience in his hotel room: Suddenly I become one with the air conditioner It was unspeakable terror after returning home, he remained anxious, had trouble sleeping, and was very tired for some weeks.

    4. Inappropriate and unrelated bursts of emotion

    Tom, age 26, signed up for a course…he developed RIA symptoms that continued after the course was over he experienced bursts of inappropriate aggressive sexual urges. He said motion was driving him crazy. For several months he feared he was losing his mind, and he was becoming phobic about going out alone to public places because he never knew when these episodes would occur.

    5. Muscle jerking

    Josh spent more than a dozen years in a meditation group. His major symptom marked head and neck jerking that he could not control. His physician had prescribed him anti-seizure medication.

    6. Long-term emotional flatness

    June meditated and took courses over 9 years. She had no complaints, but her husband, young adult children, parents, and siblings claimed she had become depressed, spacey, unenthused, not careful or caring about things. June was emotionally flat. She reported to me that she lost an awareness of time, and her eyes went out of focus prior to meditating her family said that June had been a warm and compassionate person, responsive, and involved with what was going on, even prone to temper blow-ups. Today, June appears impersonal in social situations and seems to have ceased experiencing and displaying strong emotional feelings, either positive or negative

    7. Seizures

    Calvin suffered his first seizure in the fast breathing program. He left the program and is now on anti-seizure medication.

    8. Visual hallucinations

    Caryn meditated for 17 years. She reported that she had begun seeing little creatures with wings during her intensive meditation. I began to not be able to tell who was a person and was a deva {a Hindu nature spirit.}”

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  5. [www.strippingthegurus.com]

    Otis (1984) described a study done at Stanford Research Institute in 1971 to determine the negative effects of Transcendental Meditation. SRI mailed a survey to every twentieth person on the Students International Meditation Society (TM’s parent organization) mailing list of 40,000 individuals. Approximately 47% of the 1,900 people surveyed responded. The survey included a self-concept word list (the Descriptive Personality List) and a checklist of physical and behavioural symptoms (the Physical and Behavioural Inventory). It was found that dropouts reported fewer complaints than experienced meditators, to a statistically significant degree. Furthermore, adverse effects were positively correlated with the length of time in meditation. Long-term meditators reported the following percentages of adverse effects: antisocial behaviour, 13.5%; anxiety, 9.0%; confusion, 7.2%; depression, 8.1%; emotional stability, 4.5%; frustration, 9.0%; physical and mental tension, 8.1%; procrastination, 7.2%; restlessness, 9.0%; suspiciousness, 6.3%; tolerance of others, 4.5%; and withdrawal, 7.2%. The author concluded that the longer a person stays in TM and the more committed a person becomes to TM as a way of life, the greater is the likelihood that he or she will experience adverse effects. This contrasts sharply with the promotional statements of the various TM organizations.

    Ellis (1984) stated that meditation’s greatest danger was its common connection with spirituality and antiscience. He said that it might encourage some individuals to become even more obsessive-compulsive than they had been and to dwell in a ruminative manner on trivia or nonessentials. He also noted that some of his clients had gone into “dissociative semi-trance states and upset themselves considerably by meditating.” Ellis views meditation and other therapy procedures as often diverting people from doing that which overcomes their disturbance to focusing on the highly palliative technique itself. Therefore, although individuals might feel better, their chances of acquiring a basically healthy, nonmasturbatory outlook are sabotaged.

    Walsh (1979) reported a number of disturbing experiences during meditation, such as anxiety, tension, and anger. Walsh and Rauche (1979) stated that meditation may precipitate a psychotic episode in individuals with a history of schizophrenia. Kornfield (1979 and 1983) reported that body pain is a frequent occurrence during meditation, and that meditators develop new ways to relate to their pain as a result of meditation. Hassett (1978) reported that meditation can be harmful. Carrington (1977) observed that extensive meditation may induce symptoms that range in severity from insomnia to psychotic manifestations with hallucinatory behaviour. Lazarus (1976) reported that psychiatric problems such as severe depression and schizophrenic breakdown may be precipitated by TM. French et al. (1975) reported that anxiety, tension, anger, and other disturbing experiences sometimes occur during TM. Carrington and Ephron (1975c) reported a number of complaints from TM meditators who felt themselves overwhelmed by negative and unpleasant thoughts during meditation. Glueck and Stroebel (1975) reported that two experimental subjects made independent suicide attempts in the first two days after beginning the TM program. Kannellakos and Lukas (1974) reported complaints from TM meditators. Otis (1974) reported that five patients suffered a reoccurrence of serious psychosomatic symptoms after commencing meditation. Maupin (1969) stated that the deepest objection to meditation has been its tendency to produce withdrawn, serene people who are not accessible to what is actually going on in their lives. He said that with meditation it is easy to overvalue the internal at the expense of the external.

    These and other negative meditation outcomes are described in traditional sources. The path is “sharp like a razor’s edge” says the Katha Upanishad. [54] St. John of the Cross wrote an entire book about the dark night of the soul. [55] Several hundred pages of Sri Aurobindo’s collected works deal with the problems and dangers of his integral yoga. [56] A large part of Aldous Huxley’s The Perennial Philosophy consists of admonitions from various spiritual masters about the difficulties encountered in contemplative practice, [57] and William James explores the negative side of religious life in The Varieties of Religious Experience. [58] These and other sources provide a wide array of warnings and directions for those entering a path of meditation. Though the rewards of contemplative practice can be great, they do not come easily.

    http://downthecrookedpath-meditation-gurus.blogspot.com/2011/07/dangers-of-meditation.html

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  6. Tony wants to get control over your mind (beliefs/views) to get your money. He is laughing at his victims who he has conned. Life coaching does not have to cost the earth, literally he get people to sell property assets to pay for his egotistically fraudulent seminars, let the buyer beware. There is no value at his ripoff prices. All Educo employees be especially aware he wants to fleece you with low wages only to tax them with compulsory seminars what a snake oil sales man. Open your mind not to let him in but to see the wood from the trees,

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  7. In my view totalitarian organisations and cultic religious groups all display some common features. These may be summarised as follows,

    1. Superficial theological views that lack any real depth. They may be focussed on particular aspects without due regard to reality.
    2. Egocentric and grandiose ideas such as this group or cult possess the absolute answer.
    3. No remorse or guilt about past errors, changed beliefs and mistakes.
    4. A lack of empathy for their own members questions, views and anxieties.
    5. Deceitful and manipulative, particularly when propagating their beliefs to prospective members and those who raise objections to questionable behaviours.
    6. Shallow emotions with no real ability to process internally when challenged by changing circumstances.

    As the cultic beliefs may be propounded by a single individual, the founder or prophet it is also likely that he or she will display the same attributes. In fact these features are consistent with a psychopathic psychology as outlined by Robert D. Hare PhD. (Hare, 1993).

    The problem in dealing with psychopathic organisations and people is that they are extremely difficult to spot and are often charming and believable. This is because they focus deliberately on their victim and have the gift of appealing to their needs and fears. It is if they are really understood for the first time and have at last found a likeminded person and organisation.

    No one is immune to this appeal and by the time some uncertainty arises it may be too late and the shame and anger about being deceived is so difficult to admit that it becomes almost impossible to escape.

    The truth is, however, that the only way to deal with a psychopath is to get away, physically, spiritually and emotionally as soon as possible. The difficulty of leaving should not be underestimated and requires considerable courage, strength and support. People who have come into contact with psychopaths are often severely traumatised and often require assistance to work through the pain of readjustment. It is of course possible to do and may ultimately be a rewarding process.

    Reference.
    Hare R.D. Without Conscience. The disturbing world of the psychopaths among us. (1993) New York. The Guildford Press.

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