MMM: What are the options for Debra now?

Princess Debra

It is clear from my research that Debra always wants to be in control. First she left Melbourne and moved to Twowoomba, but did not want to submit to the legitimate authority of the Church especially where cash was involved. Then she managed to purchase a former convent in Helidon just down the road and was able to completely control the flow of funds. At that time the Euro was strong and she was able to get a lot of people to give her millions when they joined the community or they were married off as a kind communal arrangement so they could remain in Australia. Eilish Gaffney gave a wonderful testimony about these issues especially as they affected the Irish. Debra had the expert financial assistance she needed in Clare Murphy and then began a battle over taxation, the end of her marriage but not before many US supporters had made massive financial contributions. However, like many before her she located her gold scam in Vanuatu and her New Age ramblings became the substance of her vocabulary as she became completely mixed up about her theology. First she was a charismatic, with a whiff of Seventh Day Adventism thrown in. She was about to go over to them when Wal Maggs challenged her and she came back into line. Now she was about Herbal Life and making a buck where she could. She verged from Protestantism to the rejection of the Eucharistic teaching of the Vatican II. She was then using the Maronites and the Melkites to keep under the radar of the Catholic Church. Finally she swung to the Tridentine Rite and was in deep waters of schism. As the ATO was closing in she and Clare Murphy would go over to Vanuatu to avoid discovery and like most of the visionaries her world became a prison as the documentary in February described.

http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article/8957927/queensland-cult-leader-accused-of-fraud

The area around the capital, Porta Vila is the least affected. However, it is likely that Debra has most of the funds she has managed to hoard on this island. From my intelligence contacts there might be other funds in banks in London, and Spain? I am not sure what her status is now in Australia as her former lieutenant Claire Birchley claims to have resolved her tax issues. Will she attempt to leave the island and move back to Helidon ?

I am not sure what her relationship is like with those on Mount St Mary’s and whether they have made common cause with her former team who are now trying to lead a dissident group. I am hoping to hear from academics who might be able to research the current situation. In summary it is likely that if Debra survived her hold on her property near the airport will become a major problem for her. Her vulnerability will increase and I know there are people on 3 continents waiting for her to come out of the woodwork?

vanuatu

The islands we now call Vanuatu were home to Melanesians for over 2,500 years. Then, in the 15th century, European explorers and missionaries began arriving and the islands changed forever.

Captain James Cook sailed through the chain in 1774, chartering and naming many of the islands. He collectively named them the New Hebrides, after the islands off the west coast of Scotland.

Known as the New Hebrides, they were administered jointly by Britain and France for 73 years. National pride finally took hold, forcing independence in 1980, along with its new name (Vanuatu) and a new constitution.

Located directly west of Fiji, Vanuatu is famed for gorgeous islands, active volcanoes and a very-intact Melanesian culture, especially on Tanna.

Vanuatu includes 13 larger islands and about 70 smaller ones. Most are mountainous (volcanic in origin) (some active), and covered in lush rain forests. Many are protected by coral reefs.

The islands are subject to devastating cyclones (hurricanes). The most destructive one ever (in 1987) damaged or ruined most of the local dwellings.

The local economy still revolves around agriculture and fishing, but tourism is a fast-growing industry and liberal tax laws have made Vanuatu a popular offshore financial center.

While most of the outer islands maintain their traditional Melanesian lifestyle, the impressive city of Port-Vila is crammed with colonial buildings,

https://i2.wp.com/www.oneworld365.org/img/101/Vanuatu%20Tours.jpg

 

The pictures below give some idea of the kind of damage that might have been inflicted on Debra’s property.

http://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2015/03/cyclone-pam-devastates-vanuatu/388024/

Please look at these pictures and give to the various agencies attempting to assist the victims of the cyclone.

 

 

 

14 Responses

  1. I am happy Clare and Claire finally had a wake up call. What about the first Debra martyrs around 20 years ago ? They are the real deal, those standing at the gate waiting for justice through patience and persecution. The two C’ s are not the hero’s. I guess people like Claire Monsour cling to seers as it makes themselves feel as if by association they are special and more important than most people. They will also have to face judgment day in regards to truth and reality in their association with Debra as well as well as the two Cs.

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  2. Anonymous 2 wrote,

    When I made that comment about the settlement I thought you meant the Cs settlement with Debra not the one made with Gordan and Michelle.

    How could you when the programme is about Debra and it is Clare Birchley is talking about it in the context of Vanuatu.
    https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2015/03/20/triple-m-does-anyone-understand-plain-english-still-waiting-for-answer-from-anonymous-2/

    Before we start into this let us get the spelling of names right.

    1. Claire Murphy 2. Clare Birchley

    Debra not the one made with Gordan and Michelle. My mistake and I don’t mind admitting it.

    You are still confused you said the programme did not mention the settlement with Debra with the ATO, it had nothing to do with Gordon and Michelle. Please watch it again. We put it up as a post as you had gone missing and the rest of your comment was absolutely convoluted.

    Here is what you wrote:
    “Is it not (Claire) who stated publically that it was her that arranged for Debra to get a settlement?” No she didn’t arrange for Debra to get a settlement.

    “The facts (Claire) has given to Channel 9 are highly selective and do not show that she was up to her eyes in the organisation” Claire sat down with A Current Affair for a couple of hours and talked openly about her experience. It is not her fault what the editor includes or doesn’t. I think you should know this.

    Again you seem to be unclear as to which C you are speaking about. It is of course Clare Birchley who gave the interview to CH 9

    The mistake you made was to claim Clare never said she had arranged a settlement. She did.

    The only thing I can say about Gordan and Michelle’s settlement is that to them and the Cs it is all in the past. They have met a number of times since the exit and are on good terms.

    You must be joking about it all being in the past. Of course it is in the past, the condition is called amnesia. They are on good terms. Gordon and Michelle received a great settlement and because the evidence concerning the trust never came to court and because Claire Murphy settled with Debra this criminal activity has been hidden.

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  3. Hi Mike
    Sorry about delay…will get back to you when I can about above. By the way I see you even gave me a headline. Sorry to cause such a scandal. When I made that comment about the settlement I thought you meant the Cs settlement with Debra not the one made with Gordan and Michelle. My mistake and I don’t mind admitting it. The only thing I can say about Gordan and Michelle’s settlement is that to them and the Cs it is all in the past. They have met a number of times since the exit and are on good terms.

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  4. Anonymous 2 Have you noticed you continue to be selective in how you reply? I ask specific questions but you reply to peripheral ones or take us off topic? I am familiar with her web site and have been studying it for some time. I am a theologian by training so this is very much up my street.

    http://www.magnificatmealmovement.com/

    Currently she is right into the Torah Codes and is convinced she is the End Times Prophet.

    A kind of Judaistic theology.

    How this came about is a whole story in itself but I could share with you what I know if you are interested.

    Definitely would like to get the background and if you send me a pdf or word document will publish either anonymously or attributed if you are free to give your details. You might have noticed I published a thesis on the MMM in 2006 and some material is still relevant. You know about the guy Morgan who was influential. I think she is more Adventist than Catholic. You can read my thesis on this site.
    https://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2012/05/24/anniversary-of-ma-thesis-on-mmm/

    You should take a look at some of her videos on her YouTube channel if you want to get an idea of her present mind set.

    I did comment on that in earlier posts but I see her because of her unresolved issues taking the stance she has. From your inside experience would you agree with my analysis? I was just watching one of these bizarre videos yesterday.

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  5. Here s a recent picture of her you might want to use http://www.magnificatmealmovement.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Debra-Geileskey2-300×201.jpeg
    Currently she is right into the Torah Codes and is convinced she is the End Times Prophet. How this came about is a whole story in itself but I could share with you what I know if you are interested. You should take a look at some of her videos on her YouTube channel if you want to get an idea of her present mind set.

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  6. We agree for once Angie. I don’t know why she hasn’t been arrested and can’t wait for that day to arrive. Hopefully what the Claires and others are doing in Australia will bring that day quickly upon us. Thanks for your support and God bless you.

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  7. “The Claires”

    One minute you are the C’s then you reference them in the third person Anon2. If they are above board why are they hiding under anonymity?

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  8. If “The Claires do not lie nor do they go around making excuses” why has Debra/Princess not been arrested and charged with fraud?

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  9. The Claires do not lie nor do they go around making excuses. They are very upfront and decent people. They have been there for everyone who have recently left and answered all their questions. There is no hiding, no anger in them whatsoever, just love and concern for all those hurt by their association with this cult (unlike Anonymous 1 whose anger is all over his above post.)

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  10. It will definitely affect all the businesses she has set up over there.

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  11. Thank you for that, but it means the area near the airport is not damaged as other islands. I would still suggest she is weakened in her being there. It is clear she has access to the internet. She will be able to do internet banking?

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  12. I know for a fact that she has survived the cyclone

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  13. John 3:20 and 1John 2:8. It’s coming for you Debra. The truth and the light. You will be forced out into the light where everybody can see you. I know that you know that, you always did. That’s why you ran and hid. I scared you because I could see you, didn’t I, therefore you vilified me and subjected me to public scorn and ridicule. Clare and Claire helped you do this. The light is also coming for them. You cannot escape judgement any more than the rest of us. We will all stand before the Lord and answer for ourselves. What will you say, Debra? Do you think the Lord our God will recognise your “greatness” and give you a free pass? What about you two Claire and Clare? The injustices that you helped Debra inflict upon others, and you CONTINUE TO DO SO with your lies and excuses. Do you have any treasure in heaven, or just your blood money here on earth? I am praying that you will all repent and be saved from your inevitable fate.

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  14. You might be interested Mike in Debra’s take on Cyclone Pam recently posted on her site @ http://www.magnificatmealmovement.com/updatecyclone-pam-vanuatu-2015/

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