Mind guru Tony Quinn back in Ireland
Thursday 12th June 2014
Mucky Messiah Tony Quinn is back in Ireland for the first time in years ready to share with his followers ‘The Answer’ to a happy life.
He has urged them to “bring your notebook” to a meeting held last weekend, but disgruntled former followers say it is more like: “Bring your cheque book.”
The so-called mind guru hopes to pocket even more cash from deluded followers claiming he has made a “real-life quantum leap” and wants to share the secrets of his success.
The mullet-haired 70-year-old, who has been hawking pricey seminars at his Educo cult for years, is hoping to reinvent himself yet again, had urged people to “drop everything” and get to a meeting he held in Clontarf Castle in Dublin recently.
Quinn is back in Ireland with his sidekick – oil millionaire Susan Morrice, who tried to use the High Court to force our Investigations Editor Nicola Tallant to reveal details about her sources of information for articles about Morrice and Quinn.
The case, won by the Sunday World in a huge victory for free speech, resulted in a historic ruling which saw the rights of a journalist to protect their sources being recognised by the Irish courts for the first time.
Quinn has been off the radar for years in Ireland, but he recently wrote to supporters: “This is the most excited I’ve been… Drop everything and get to this meeting.”
In his letter, Quinn says he and Morrice and her nephew Josh Stewart have together come up with the concept of ‘The Answer’.
Quinn was hoping to sell his seminars in the sun during the meeting for a depleting number of his cult followers.
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In one of Jade talks with BB in the dining room she made an out of the blue comment that struck me as odd; throwing her leg in the air she said “If the shoe fits”. Who isn’t familiar with the fairy-tale of Cinderella going to the ball? Is it too much of a coincidence that Margaret Forde referred to this story on her website? You won’t find it now as she has cleaned up her advertising. She makes no reference to the fact she is working for Tony Quinn and a founding member of the Educo cult.
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Joel, a 19 year old aspiring politician, is the target for ‘fun and games’ in the BB house. Confronted by Jade who persisted in goading him, he used intelligence and logic to prevent her tirade from escalating and managed to get away from her. Later, in front of all of the contestants she jeered him, saying he was like a girl running away. Some were amused at her bullying behaviour. Not one told her she was out of order. Bear in mind that Joel has been a target for Aaron, a gay contestant, who took every opportunity to question Joel’s sexuality. Trying every trick in the book and not getting anywhere, he resorted to chasing Joel, flashing his genitals, egged on by two other contestants. No-one picked up on Joel’s distress and embarrassment. Too busy laughing at Aaron’s antics they were oblivious to the fact that Joel was being harassed. BB had no option but to evict him out through the back door.
Jade had a game plan. She picked on Joel, the most vulnerable, to demonstrate how she “unleashed” so as to stop the housemates from ‘picking’ on her. The problem is, it is part of the game show to nominate and they have to give a reason for choosing that person. Why BB, the public or housemates consider bullying behaviour as entertainment is beyond me. It reminds me of the Educo cult where insults were used to gain and retain control.
Cristian, the second contestant who ‘meditated’ with Jade for a period of time, enquired about how she was feeling, was she enjoying herself? Granted, BB may not have aired the full conversation, however, it took a strange turn when explaining her reasons for separating from the contestants:
“When I get like that I don’t want anyone near me. Anyone, do you know. Even Nick, I kinda push Nick away as well, but em, now I realise I can’t do that in here and it’s hurting my soul.” “So then, what I’ll do now down” (lowering hand motion on stomach area) “and I’m who I was walking down the stairs again.”
Honestly, I don’t know whether she attended ‘meditation’ classes in the Educo cult; I have mentioned previously how cult members can develop an addictive need to stay in a ‘positive’/trance state of mind. They are told in the Educo cult, to stay away from ‘negative’ people. They are vulnerable to suggestion while in this state and, constantly reminded that ‘outsiders’ who do not understand changes in their behaviour, they tend to develop a dislike or even fear of company or conversation that is different to cult speak. Thinking herself superior to all other housemates, It would seem that Jade does not consider anyone, other than the two she spent ‘meditation’ time with, as fit for her company, just about.
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Recently I commented: “I sincerely hope she is evicted on Friday; however, it seems there is a twist in the eviction process that may support her (Jade) being there longer.”
I suspected Big Brother would prevent the public from evicting her. For the first time in BB history they have overturned the voting decisions of the housemates. Big Brother’s agenda has prevented the public majority who wanted to vote her out. The plan is 4 evictions and 4 new contestants added to the house; who are they and how will they contribute to the ‘mind-set’ and manipulations of Jade and Big Brother? Is the plan to unhinge Jade or reinforce her ‘mind-set’? We will find out after Friday’s shock evictions.
Jade, in conversation with Nick (a 19 year old who was subjected to Jade’s ‘meditation’ that separated him from the group for a number of days) tells us why she feels she has to change her behaviour to deal with those who are not ‘connecting’ with her.
She says: “I’ve just had such a big transformation in here. From the first week, the person that I was is who I am” gesturing to indicate her separation from the Jade persona presented previously, she continued “but she can’t be here anymore unfortunately because this is real now. You know, she can’t handle this but this Jade can. She’ll crumble and fall and cry. She can’t handle this” and prodding her shoulder she says “but this Jade can and she can take it 10 times harder. Do you know what I mean?”
Jade shows no signs of empathy for fellow contestants and she also shows no concern for the after effects of “unleashing” her pent up anger due to rejection. A number of contestants are of the opinion that she is harmful to Nick and anyone else she insists on being with. The question is, why are they uncomfortable with her behaviour, the ‘positive’, very needy, touchy feely meditative Jade she originally presented as in the BB house?
Following the initial interaction of getting to know each other, Jade separated from the group and insisted on Nick’s company, spending days lying in bed with him ‘meditating’. Some, particularly the women, ignored what was happening because they felt so uncomfortable with her anyway and, more than likely, were glad she did not interact with them, however, the ones who felt Nick was being influenced by Jade called his attention to how he was being separated from the group.
One would expect Jade’s behaviour as more suited to a ‘meditation’ type seminar. On Tony Quinn seminars most of the time is spent sitting relaxing to ‘get in touch with your energy’, watching videos of Quinn and listening to people who are under hypnotic influence and taking direction from him. The seminar attenders, when under hypnotic influence, are told how ‘amazing’ and ‘wonderful’ they are. Emphasis is put on seeing auras, reading auras. Quinn talks about how they can use their ‘amazing’ energy to get what they want.
If Jade has gone through this type of hypnotic influence it would explain why she feels superior and more powerful than everyone else in the house and also the reason why she has a fear of ‘negativity’ and runs away from ‘bad’ auras. It would appear that she prefers to embrace the ‘positive’ and to such a degree that she feels the need to compartmentalise/separate the cult projected ‘nice’ Jade in order to feel free to wreak havoc with the other. In earlier days in the house Jade talked about finding it hard to “keep it down” when she was angry. She shook with the ‘force’ of ‘it’. She really believes that she has a right to “call them out”. Anyone who has worked for the Educo cult will not only recognise what she is feeling, they will know that she is conditioned to feel she has a ‘god’ given right to “unleash” and it is also possible that she is aware of the cult manipulative intention behind this. I doubt she has any idea of what she is setting herself up for.
How she perceives herself as being two separate Jades may be interesting to mental health practitioners, however, it is nothing new to cult experts who recognise the cult persona, brought about by a cult leader, to replace the original personality by using hypnosis and other methods to shock the person in order to gain control. From my experience it takes time to do this and, initially, one can feel they have two separate identities.
Whatever BB’s agenda, if the above is the case, and I sincerely hope I am wrong, they do Jade a terrible injustice by displaying her disconnection from reality in public! It is an injustice to use her, even if she has given consent, to study the ‘mind-set’ of cultic influence and hypnotic conditioning.
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Lets hope she’ll have five minutes of fame and disappear into obscurity. God willing she wont become a horse to ride off into the sunset or does Quinn do that anymore
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I will say again that I am shocked to see how Margaret and Martin Forde are allowed to continue working in the area of psychology when so much information about how abusive the Educo cultic practices are and the damage done to people down through the years.
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This is no joke, no laughing matter!!! We have a situation where Big Brother is allowing the contestants to be used as guinea pigs and without consent. This could not be organised unless there are at least two Educo cult members involved. It is happening right under our noses and I have yet to hear anyone refer to the sly way Jade is operating or refer to what she is doing.
Jade is very busy in the house and only a few, mainly the women she saw as a threat from the very beginning, have recognised how manipulative she is. They talk about getting a ‘weird’ feeling from her, something they have never experienced before. I strongly suspect that number will grow coming up to Friday and I sincerely hope the public will evict Jade to stop her. Comments being made by the public are that she is vile, superficial, a fake, a witch and intent on seducing the males in the house are disturbing to listen to even if I agree with them. Jade has made it obvious she has no interest in sexual engagement. I suspect it is far worse in that Jade has a mission; she is doing exactly what Tony Quinn’s ‘helpers’ do. She has picked the most vulnerable to start with. She is very manipulative and they have no idea what she is doing.
Driven by her ‘energy’/hypnotic programming, she is on the warpath mainly against the contestants she has no ‘connection’ with; if she cannot seduce them she will use anger to break down barriers of protection. She does not have any conscience about doing this. It does not surprise me that she perceives anyone who rejects her as the enemy. That’s exactly how Quinn and Cowman operate. People have had nervous breakdowns due to seminars and the majority of the contestants are in the BB house for much longer than two weeks.
The public are aware that there is something disturbingly wrong with the situation in the house. Jade is hated by the public. They may not understand what she is doing but they instinctively know she is toxic. Some want her to stay because they want toxic drama to keep them amused. For the contestants sake and also Jade’s she should be put out of the house now. I sincerely hope she is evicted on Friday; however, it seems there is a twist in the eviction process that may support her being there longer. Tony Quinn and ‘top brass’ plus the rest of the coven are anticipating that the public are so ignorant nothing will be said about it, however, I hope the people who are intelligent in this area of influence will do something to stop this type of cultic advertising.
We do not hear enough of the conversations or see enough of what is happening to get a fuller picture of what Jade is doing, however, if she is using hypnosis, which is easy enough when ‘meditating’, she may be sued for it and BB may very well be airing their last show. Big Brother must have known, before Jade went into the house, what her intentions are. Do the contestants sign away any legal right to sue for damages, physical or mental?
Dialogue, I am sincere in asking you to contact someone qualified in mental health and the cultic use of manipulation to inform Big Brother headquarters of the possible legal consequences of continuing this show.
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By the way, who is the Irish guy working behind the scenes for Big Brother? Every time I hear him questioning the contestants in the ‘dining room’, I cringe.
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Jade presented as having a career in modelling “high class” underwear. She is an Irish girl from Dublin. I was interested to see how she got on with her fellow contestants in the Big Brother House, however, as the programme progresses I get more and more uneasy about her behaviour. The programme presenters have picked up on Jade’s ‘mind-set’. The language she uses is cultic; the words negative and positive are used to describe almost everything that happens in the house. Jade’s first concern in the BB House was about the negative vibes she was getting from a young woman she was to share a bed with, describing her as being “very negative”. Throughout the programme she has consistently shown concern about ‘negative’ conversation and reactions towards her.
No information has been given about Jade’s qualifications or who she trained with yet, from the beginning, she instigated ‘meditation’ group sessions and one-on-one sessions with contestants. So far we have viewed a male contestant approaching her for ‘meditation’ As she projects ‘confidence’ in her belief that ‘meditation’ sessions with her can be used to overcome their problems, it gives the impression that she offers a therapeutic service.
I have mentioned many times throughout this blog on Tony Quinn that part of the ‘philosophical’ hypnotic programme he installs is deliberately aimed at influencing the people who attend his seminars to draw more people into the cult using sexual attraction. Jade talks about being poly-amorous; according to her it is about being in an open relationship and sexually active with both sexes, however, regardless of the impression she gives of being sexually promiscuous she says “I don’t sexually desire none of them”.
Without going into detail about a mission BB set up, a few contestants, including Jade, had an overnight stay in a ‘mental hospital’ ward. Fearing the ‘crazy’ set-up she insisted that a young 19 year old share her bed and she clung to him as if her life depended on him. He was very happy to oblige the “supermodel”, however, she had no intentions of letting him go and he had no idea of what he was getting into. Jade admits she is a “touchy feely person” and needed him to reciprocate her ‘affection’ to alleviate her ‘stress’, that what they shared was a cure for depression. It was apparent that some of the remarks she made in conversation put him on edge; sharing first impressions they had of each other, he had thought she was a witch. Attempting to extricate himself from the hold she had over him, he encouraged her to communicate with other contestants. Jade explained she had no interest in talking to anyone else as she had not ‘connected’ with them the way she had with him.
Other contestants became concerned about him and eventually drew him into conversation about Jade’s influence, how it had put an end to him interacting with the group for a number of days.
While he was in the dining room talking to BB about how to get out of the dilemma he was in Jade was very concerned about losing his friendship. Impatiently waiting for him she shared her thoughts with the cameras (it’s not the first time she has) and referring to herself she says: “For fuck sake. I don’t know why your aura and energies have to be so powerful and, and ruin everyone’s fucking day love”.
In an effort to explain to Jade about his decision to stay away from her, that he “needed to protect himself” from what she was doing, she wasn’t having it at all. Using the initial attraction he had felt for her, she ‘switched’, reignited the illusion of ‘love’. He commented on what she had “started again” and she replied “I know. I know. I am what I am.”
The truth is, she is under the influence of the effects of Tony Quinn’s sorcery. How she lives and experiences her life is irreparably changed. It is not who she truly is, it is what she has become. Her ability to form a lasting relationship is hugely compromised. Her ‘mind-set’ holds the promise of ‘success’ and ‘fame’, her total reliance on Quinn’s ‘formula that never fails’, the promise of ‘power’ to manipulate situations and people for whatever she wants. Whether it is true or not, her belief in her ‘power’ that she has threatened to unleashed in the house, knowing that the effect will be harmful to others, she has yet to understand that it will cause terrible problems for her. Being in the public eye, Quinn’s influence will cost her dearly.
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Is anyone watching Big Brother on TV3? You might wonder why I am commenting on the programme in Dialogue Ireland. I have good reason to think that the contestant Jade is showing signs of cultic Educo programming. Watch this space!!!
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It’s worth watching the series Keith Barry: Brain Hacker on TV3. I was reluctant to watch it at first because I knew it would remind me of Tony Quinn, however, I was delighted when I did not react, did not go into a trance state to the point of doing what Keith Barry suggested; the instructions were similar to what Quinn does. I was pleased when he passed by a woman who was already in a trance state, did not work with her. She would be the first Quinn picked on to show off his ‘amazing’ abilities as he does with his ‘foolies’ who were/are disturbingly eager to please him.
A manipulator who believes he should keep his friends close and his enemies closer; he perceived anyone who did not fall for the con were his enemies before they knew it and then made the foolish mistake of giving his thoughts away. He probably still does so keep your ears open and get out of the cult as fast as your legs can carry you before he and the rest of them make you a target for a little ‘fun and games’ to amuse themselves.
Tony Quinn has said that you cannot make some-one do what they do not want to. NOT TRUE!
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When under influence and unless you have sporadic breakthroughs, the sad truth is, it is impossible to know that you are being abused and used in a manner that would, in normal circumstances, disgust you. In trance state, a good indication that you do not agree with what is happening is if you feel sick to your stomach. When the penny finally drops, if you are any way decent, this knowledge will cause you to fear for your safety and the safety of others who are under control.
Knowing that hypnosis is REAL! we can understand why women and men who are hypnotised and ‘turned on’ by Quinn’s ugly mug or whoever it is he wants you to ‘turn on’ to, are influenced to cater for his every need. The women who went on seminars who were, ‘allegedly’ sexually abused are not capable of giving proper consent.
Knowing about hypnotic influence, would you be at ease with your father or mother, husband, wife, son, daughter or grandchild or friend going on an Educo seminar?
The question we need ask ourselves is: have we lost our instinctual need to protect society from abusive predators?
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The above post is more suited to these comments:
Wakey Wakey!
Have you seen the UTV programme “You’re Back in the Room” with presenter Philip Scofield? Hypnotist, Keith Barry, puts five people under hypnosis to act out various roles throughout the show. The majority of them remember absolutely nothing about what they did. This is hypnosis in action. And another point I need to make about the contestants; they may not always feel that it was a positive experience if they find themselves reacting to cues/triggers they were exposed to, both behind the scenes and on the show. If Keith Barry decided that he wanted to have access to their money and if he did it in such a way, like Quinn, that made them feel ‘amazing’, he would have access to their accounts before they left the studio!
The con artist Tony Quinn would not have the, so called, ‘amazing’ results without using hypnosis. He would not have such ‘amazing’ ‘foolies’ to work for him without leaving them in a trance state to obey every order and regurgitate the mindless ‘amazing’ programme. People who go on his seminars are hypnotised into saying how ‘wonderful’, how ‘fantastic’ it all is and not one of them seems to be aware of the fact they have been hypnotised and still in the trance state; sitting ducks for any con that comes their way.
I REST MY CASE!!!!
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“Those who trim themselves to suit others will soon whittle away”- Amish proverb
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Those of you whose lives were ruined, who went bankrupt, who lost homes, who had to emigrate, who had a career change under influence that failed; it was not your fault. You were taken in by a very subtle scam, a ‘philosophy’ of deception and secrecy. As in all cults, just as you seem to get what you want, just as you reach your ‘goal’ Quinn claims there is more to it. Why do some people, even if it is a small number, continue to go on seminars?
It is due to coercive persuasion and influential techniques that have affected the thought process. Contrary to what you are led to expect, your ideas are not affirmed unless they fit in with the leader’s ideas and goals. The boundaries of reality are determined by Quinn. The agenda is having power and control OVER you, to bring you to the point of saying yes to anything he influences you to do even when it does not fit in with what you requested/wanted and, as you know by now, Aideen Cowman had no conscience about doing it either. They gauge how far they can push you ‘forward’ when you are emotionally/energetically bound to them.
The most damage (aligning with Quinn) is done when you become attached to feeling ‘powerful’ when you see the results of manipulation. Letting ‘IT’ go is not easy. Quinn likes to repeat “If you don’t use it, you lose it”, and this can engender a fear of losing what you, supposedly, have ‘gained’ which is to unfairly/unduly influence others without knowledge or consent. Members are led to believe that if they are not part of Educo they are part of the ‘negative’ world; those who left may be inclined to return either through fear of ‘top brass’ or because they are dependent on the ‘top-up’/hypnosis sessions.
Disguised fear parodied as admiration and respect for Quinn and Cowman is what I witnessed, however, there is always one or two, usually male, who drop hints about what goes on behind closed doors.
People do experience, when in the presence of Educo members, an obnoxious cult projected jealousy; if it gave off an odour it would stink. I have noticed a few new faces on Irish television so it would not surprise me if some presenters, who are very popular with the public, are being subjected to ‘changes’ , having to work alongside a type of person that would not have been considered before. They should not have to contend with the emotional toxicity cult members bring with them. In the past, when a cult member was part of a health programme, her unconscious awareness was programmed to be oblivious to rejection or isolation from Educo ‘outsiders’.
One can also talk about ‘possession’; influence at a distance or the Educo description, ‘by remote control’ which, I’ve been told, is how Aideen Cowman described and joked about it. All of the above aptly describes the Educo cult; the worst of these experiences being the period of time struggling with fear. The trauma, the fear of ‘failure’; the fear that draws you back into the cult, or the instilled fear to keep you silent about nasty experiences and valid opinions, the debilitating physical pain and apathy may take a far worse toll on your life than you ever envisioned and the consequences of attending the Educo cult or a seminar. We need to hear about the numbers of people who did not ‘succeed’. When is this going to happen?
In a cultic group, whoever comes into your mind the most is the person who controls you. Even on wakening ex-cult members comment about seeing a picture of Quinn fading and recently, Aideen Cowman’s has been seen as fading away. Unfortunately for those who detest the ground she walks on, it’s possible they experience this due to having been influenced by her in the past. Don’t be a victim. Find a way to deal with it without anger. Dismiss her sorcery that is toxic and obnoxious.
Far better that you never become involved in any cultic group no matter how ‘shiny’ or promising it looks on the outside!
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So misleading when they talk about ‘changing your mind’ ‘making better choices’ etc., it’s just a front that has enabled them to get away with what they do. It can lead to physical damage and changes in the brain. This should be taken far more seriously than it is at present.
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He is a psychopath. Quinn, Cowman and Forde do not stop at using hypnosis. What they do interferes with how the brain functions. I’m wondering who to talk to as I have come across very relevant information that explains a lot of what I have been through. Psychopaths are not locked up behind bars in Broadmoor for nothing! It’s where they belong! Quinn thinks, acts and lives the life of a psychopath. I have no doubt! He IS dangerous and anyone who says different is plain ignorant!
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So obvious Quinn’s ‘potential’ scam is to fleece them. Foolies one and all! The right hand going up with the helium balloon and the left going down with a bucket of cement, ridiculous directed exercises to focus you on what he says, with a subtle reminder to share the wealth when they make it. The greedy fecker!
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Everything he does and says is to bring you under influence. The finger touching exercise is to gauge your level of suggestibility, NOT to measure your ‘amazing’ energy level but an indication of how easy it will be for him to manipulate your mind. WAKE UP to the con!
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What Quinn did in the past and continues to do is experimental and it can go badly wrong. People are seen as cash cows and guinea pigs for mind controlling experiments.
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Quinn “urged people to “drop everything”; are these programmed words they are induced to respond to? Another phrase is ‘let go’.
He should take his own advice and ‘drop everything’ and take a ‘quantum leap’ out of Ireland and ‘let go’ of (give back) the B shareholders money they invested in good faith.
The appeal for ex-quinnites and ex-educoists to “drop everything” conjures up a picture of forgiveness; to “let go” of his criminal past deeds. He does not have a hope in hell in pulling that one off!
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He boasts a “real-life quantum leap”; Quinn’s method of getting ‘new’ ideas has never changed since the early day; just another plagiarising job of information already out there; now he adds ‘modern’ cult speak and he supposedly comes up with a ‘new’ concept?
Even at his age he seems incapable of accepting that the people he targets are actually “too good” for the likes of him and, free of undue influence, would not want anything to do with a ‘guru’/ hypnotically trained mind seducer who has so far evaded alleged charges of sexual assault and battery, proof that he was using shareholders money in INE for purposes unknown to them and harassing them when they challenged unethical business practices.
For those who are not yet free of him, seriously, is the sporadically induced hypnotic ‘high’ worth it when he turns your life upside-down and proceeds to empty your bank account? The smarmy psychopath will dupe and then dump you when you have no more to give!
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