Call for State schools to accommodate Islamic beliefs Dr Ali Selim calls for a ‘revolution of inclusivity’ in Irish schools by Patsy McGarry – Irish Times

Religion & Beliefs September 3rd 2014

Ali Selim

Dr Ali Selim of the Islamic Cultural Centre in Dublin’s Clonskeagh and a lecturer in the Mater Dei Institute and Trinity College.
Wed, Sep 3, 2014.

A spokesman for the Muslim community in Ireland has called for radical change in the educational system to accommodate children with Islamic beliefs.

Dr Ali Selim, of the Islamic Cultural Centre in Dublin’s Clonskeagh and a lecturer in the Mater Dei Institute and Trinity College, has called for “a revolution of inclusivity” in Irish schools and “an upheaval in Irish educational perspectives”.

This was necessary to accommodate the needs of a society which is now “home to a variety of Christian denominations, as well as people of other faiths and of none”, he says in his book Islam and Education in Ireland, to be published next week.
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Estimating that of approximately 65,000 Muslims in Ireland today as many as 20,000 would be in the under-18 school-going age, he relates difficulties these young people face when it comes to admission to schools, as well as their problems with PE classes, relationship and sexuality education, music and drama classes, and practice of their faith during school hours.

“Gaining admission to Irish schools is a challenge for Muslims,” Dr Selim says, describing as “legal discrimination” section 15 of the 1998 Education Act which allows schools give preference to pupils on faith grounds. It was a “major problem for non-Catholic children who apply to them because of proximity or quality of education”, he says.

This continued despite a prohibition of discrimination on religion grounds by all recent Equal Status Acts, he says and quotes the example of a Catholic boys’ secondary school in Dublin that says in its policy statement: “Non-Catholic enrolment will only be considered in the event of being undersubscribed.” In its order of priorities for admittance the school only begins to consider the admission of non-Catholics at point number seven.

More generally Dr Selim says , “Muslim festivals are neither celebrated or marked in the calendar in Irish schools.”

He suggests they be days off for Muslim children. During Ramadan, the month of fasting, Muslims give to charity and schools could co-operate by “raising funds for the poor and the needy”. But, he points out, “any form of raffle is strictly forbidden in Islam”.

About the RSE programme in schools Dr Selim says there are “crucial differences” with Islam. It forbids pre- and extramarital sexual relations, whereas RSE perceives sexual relations outside wedlock as part of normal practices.”

He suggests there is “a clash of values” also between Islam and “traditional ways of teaching PE”. In some schools, “under the guise of health and safety, Muslim girls are obliged to take off their headscarves for PE classes, which is not acceptable to them”.

Where schools were “persistent”, they should “employ a female PE teacher and provide students with a sports hall not accessible to men during times when girls are at play. They should also not be visible to men while at play.”

Also, Muslim girls would resist changing clothes in a communal area.

When it came to music some Muslims would see it as prohibited but “if music is performed using non-tuneable percussion instruments such as drums, most Muslims will have no problem”.

On school plays Dr Selim points out that “physical contact between members of the opposite sex who can be legally married is forbidden in Islam” and that “gender role-reversal is not permissible”.

Acting “in a way that may arouse sexual feeling or give sexual hints causes objection.”

Wed, Sep 3, 2014, 01:00

2 Responses

  1. As an Irish person, born and bred, I feel uneasy about any foreign religious organisation making demands that are detrimental to society purely to accommodate them. The UK bent over backwards and, if they are an example of the outcome of compliance, I am against Ireland going down the same road.


  2. perhaps Dr Ali would be better employed teaching Islamic children the value of a society which embraces women as equals, and allows them to play a fuller role. And while he is at it he might also teach them the destructive nature of hate. Also he might like to study some Geography and head off to somewhere were he might be more welcome.


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