Dear Mr. Garde,
I went through your website in relation to the Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge.
(I have tried to explain to you our web site is basically an archive, and is not to be confused with the WordPress blog we use. Here we allow people to leave comments which are not monitored till AFTER they are up. Some blogs do not allow comments up before such a process goes on. So if we miss a comment it is only if people bring them to our attention that we can examine them.)
It makes me very sad to see so many lies told about so few people, good living Catholics, in the Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge. Not one single commentator gave their name.
(Again I did explain this to you, but you were not listening. We allow anonymous comments to be made. That is the protection we give people.)
The Congregation was registered at the Vatican in early March 2013.
(The role of this blog is not to authenticate facts of this type, they are matters of opinion that do not concern us.)
When a Catholic Bishop, who is in Union with the Pope, sets up a new Congregation like Our Lady of Refuge, and registers it at the Vatican, it is already approved.
(That is the problem he is not in union with the Pope. You believe he is. Perhaps you can produce the papers from the appropriate Congregation to evidence your belief.)
The Pope is the only one who can veto it.
(Show us evidence that the Pope accepted the Congregation Of Our Lady of Refuge.)
As the Pope did not veto it, this means two things:
1. That he is a valid Bishop.
(You are making all kinds of logical jumps. The guy may be a bishop but he is not in communion with the Archbishop of Berlin and consequently he is not in union with Rome. That is my opinion, but to be honest I don’t care.)
2. And that what he has set up is valid. Please- no more speculation. If you have a problem with a Bishop, write to the Pope, not another Bishop.
(I will turn it around if what you say is true show us the documentation from Rome. The onus is on you to give evidence. My view is that you are not in union with Bishop Kelly and as a result are not connected to the Catholic Church in Ireland. You can continue to live the double life as builder during the week and priest at the week end. A kind of Jekyll and Hyde existence?)
When you called to meet me at work, you did not tell me that you intended to put a selected part of our conversation on the internet.
(I could not have been clearer, but as you were speaking so much you did not hear. I you told I was going to write up our conversation and all you were concerned about was getting the blog altered. You were to get back to me but went missing for two weeks. I wanted to take a photograph of the place where you were working and one of you as a builder. You asked me to not take a photograph and I didn’t.)
This means that I cannot speak with you anymore.
(You definitely wanted to talk to me and were very happy when I agreed to modify anything you were able to substantiate on the blog.)
You were also going to photograph the place where I worked, and you wanted to take my photograph. Why would you want these?
(To show people that you are in reality not exercising a priestly ministry but are involved with a business.)
What did you say your brief was?
(To meet and report on my blog my impressions, after all I had about two hours on the phone with you. I was also trying to make arrangements to come to visit you.)
Please note the following facts:
1. No donations from anyone were received in order to build The Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge. None.
(Did anyone claim they did? Why are defending yourself about something no one is asking?)
2. No member of the Congregation ever gave permission for any material or photographs to be posted on the internet, so any photos on line should not be there.
(You in fact told me that it was your Bishop friend who put them up. Sorry you were pissed off with him. Don’t take it out on me.)
3. The average age among members of the Congregation is 60 years. There is nobody under the age of 30 in the Congregation.
(Did anyone suggest there was?)
Members joined of their own free will and are free to come and go as they please.
(That is a matter of opinion and the jury is out on that one.
Please respect the free will of individuals to practice their Catholic faith in peace.
(How many times have we told you we have no interest in your beliefs. Whether they are Catholic or not is not my job to decide. The competent ecclesiastical authority to decide resides up the road from you.)
We find it very interesting that there is so much talk about Our Lady of Refuge on Dialogue Ireland because since I went on Shannonside Radio last December 23rd to inform the public about the Congregation, we didn’t receive a single phonecall from anyone or not one person called to the house.
(If someone had a concern the last thing they would do is phone you and if they knocked how you would know you are hardly there? Do you have a housekeeper there?)
Where are all the ‘concerned’ people? This is one of the largest local radio stations in Ireland. Considering the fact that the total number of members in Our Lady of Refuge in all of Connaught and Leinster (inc. Dublin city) is only 6 people, who know each other between 6-16 years, among whom are an elderly nun and a retired civil servant, we cannot fathom what all the exaggerated hype is about. We all have families who are not a bit pleased about the lies and derogatory statements printed on Dialogue Ireland. When someone makes a comment it either originates from God, who is pure love, or from the devil who is pure hate. Only the two forces exist, good or evil. Most of the comments on Dialogue Ireland are not from God. They are rash judgements, lies, no charity or love of neighbour, no consideration for the families of the people that they are writing about.
(Could you give us the details about what your family feel about doing your business during the week and then hiving off to Roscommon on Saturday morning? Must do a lot for family unity? Yes let us hear from some of the families?)
Some of the comments are nothing more than incitement to hatred. I am very surprised at you Mike Garde, that you would allow these comments on when you must be aware of the hurt that they can cause in families, and to think that you pride yourself on acting to protect the human rights of vulnerable adults. In your own words:
‘DI is not concerned about the beliefs of this group, but rather the undue influence exercised over individuals through the group. In other words our remit is the abuse of the human rights of vulnerable adults, not whether this is an Orthodox Catholic community.’
What about the abuse of the human rights of innocent members of Our Lady of Refuge? Maybe it’s time Mike Garde was investigated.
(Who would you like to investigate me or DI?)
I would like you to prove that the comments on your blog were written by real people, not just 1 person. I will need the names and addresses of some of the commentators, owing to the content of their statements, in case I deem it necessary to take legal action which of course will implicate you.
(It is quite clear that you still have not grasped the nature of a blog. By definition whether there are six people or two they are allowed to be anonymous. Only if you can prove in court that you have been defamed will the possibility of revealing the IP addresses and the persons involved with our blog be a possibility. However, you have caused a problem for yourselves. You made it a condition of my publishing that I change nothing. How can I amend the blog if there is reason to without breaching the conditions of your posting here? I asked you about this on Monday and have received no answer. It appears you have no real desire for amendments?)
I trust, by some of your statements that you believe these comments to be true. You should therefore have evidence to prove so.
(Whether I believe that these comments are true is not an issue, as long as I believe they believe them to be true is the only relevant point. I do not have to give evidence for the views people express in the same way a librarian does not need to back up every book she holds in her library.)
Now, lets take a look at some of the comments:
Article ‘Who are Michael Caulfield and Bishop Ralph Napierski?
Dialogue Ireland, on May 25, 2013 at 12:03am said:
‘None what so ever, we will show that his succession is absolutely a joke. It has to be seen to be believed.’
This comment was made against Bishop Ralph Napierski back in May 2013. Of course Dialogue Ireland have not shown Bishop Ralph’s succession to be a joke as that would be impossible. Bishop Ralph has already taken one of the largest media companys in Germany (The B.Z.) to court for saying that he was a fake, among other things. He won the courtcase. We enclose a copy of the court document. Furthermore, all valid clergy in Germany receive a stipend from the Government. In Germany, a Bishop must prove his validity in order to receive this stipend. If he cannot prove his validity he could be arrested and given a jail sentence. As a valid Bishop, Bishop Ralph receives a stipend from the German government to carry out his ministry.
(Here we have a difference of opinion and I believe having talked to the people in Berlin the interpretation you placed on your evidence is disputed. Result: No change to the post.)
Anonymous, on May 31, 2013 at 8.49pm said:
(‘I’m concerned as I know people who are giving a lot of money to maintain this house in Roscommon.)
(This comment has been removed as no evidence was produced.)
They were/are connected with the cult of St. Charbel, headed by William Kamm (“Little Pebble”) who is still in jail in Australia for statutory rape. It is a Doomsday Cult and the premise was that when the world would end the cult members would survive and William Kamm would become the next Pope. He had a duty to repopulate the world and to do the job needed 12 “queens” and 78(or thereabouts) “Princesses”. So he duped families in his cult in Wolloongong to allow their teenage brainwashed daughters to become his queens and princesses. My concern is that this may also have occurred via the cult house in Clontarf, Dublin as William Kamm visited there a number of times. And that, because the Roscommon cult is an offshoot of the Clontarf cult, that some vulnerable young women may yet come to harm via the “priests” there-Michael Caulfield and perhaps Seamus (Murphy) who had to have known what was going on. Luckily at present it seems to be more elderly foolish ladies involved who are simply being duped.
(This is about Kamm rather than about you. We will keep it here as we have evidence you actually visited Kamm in Australia. It is a legitimate inference to draw. If you publically deny Kamm we will delete this section.)
(out of their money, not that that is so great either.’)
(This has been deleted as no evidence was produced.)
This person is telling blatant lies. Firstly, the Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge has absolutely nothing to do with William Kamm or the Order of St. Charbel.
(This is about Kamm rather than about you. We will keep it here as we have evidence you actually visited Kamm in Australia. It is a legitimate inference to draw. If you publically repudiate Kamm we will delete this section.)
Secondly, No donations have ever been received from anyone in order to build the Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge. Please provide us with evidence to back up these wild accusations and the details of this person.
(No we will not reveal this person’s identity, but we have removed this at your request.)
Margaret, on July 13, 2013 at 3.03am said:
‘I know Ralph Napierski very well, especially his antics. German police said that he is NOT a resident of Germany and only has a postal address and answering machine service there. He is Polish, has a girlfriend and a little boy. Secondly, he promotes sex toys in marriages and the BDSM industry; has been photographed with nude sex workers, Third Reichers, other false clergy connected to William Kamm; is allegedly selling fake relics for US$150 each with a fake certificate; now calls himself “The Prophet” and is promoting MDM (Maria Divine Mercy) who has been declared a false prophet by the Vatican and declares God sent him to reveal that Pope Francis is the Antichrist when in fact he certainly is NOT. Napierski has built machines that read a person’s mind and sold it to the military; has hacked many sites including eBay; is a spiritual vampire who practices Jesus Yoga (Yoga is condemned by our Vatican exorcist). I also know of two cases where he has implanted thoughts into people’s minds and used his psychic ability to affect these two people. He is NOT a mystic, he is a psychic and ruled by the hand of the Devil.’
There are so many lies in this comment it beggars belief. Bishop Ralph is a German and proud of the fact.
(This is opinion and will not be censored.)
Article, ‘Germany’s Mysterious Vatican Gatecrasher’
Bishop Ralph took one of the largest German media companies (The B.Z.) to court for stating that he was a fake Bishop, among other things. He won the courtcase. Enclosed is a copy of the court document, so we expect you to remove these lies from your website.
(He won an injunction and we do not take the same inference you draw, and we believe it is allowable as an honest opinion.)
Article, ‘DI Director on Shannonside Radio with Joe Finnegan about the Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge.’
Anon, on November 28, 2013 at 7:51pm said:
‘I heard this interview, while travelling in the car. I am shocked this is going on in ballaghaderreen and not known to most people. People need to be informed more on it
(and its dangers. I contacted friends living locally to this cult and they were not aware of its dangers at all.’)
(No evidence is presented for this claim so it is deleted.)
We listened to the interview with Mike Garde on Shannonside Radio. Mike Garde, who knows absolutely nothing about the Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge, was speculating that we were linked to William Kamm, and he also tried to compare us with a criminal gang that enslaved women in London. This is despicable. It is disturbing to see the undue influence that Mike Garde exercisers over viewers and listeners such as the commentator above.
(I have listened to my interview and at no stage did I make a comparison between the enslaved women in London and the Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge.)
This person admits that he/she heard the interview while travelling in the car and is ‘shocked this is going on in ballaghaderreen’. As this person claims to be ‘shocked’, we can deduce that he/she knew nothing about the Congregation up until this point, and is now convinced, due to the speculation of Mike Garde, that it is a dangerous cult.
(How would I know what was in their mind. In any case I have deleted it.)
This person has even contacted locals to turn them against Our Lady of Refuge, all due to the speculation of Mike Garde. This comment proves that Mike Garde has successfully incited hatred towards innocent members of Our Lady of Refuge.
(As I did not draw the connection you drew it must arise from information both you and I are not aware of?)
Lets take a look at the next three comments together as they are linked and were written directly one after another:
Fidelma from Argentina, on December 2, 2013 at 1.02pm said:
‘I know a respectable family in Ballaghaderreen who have visited the house there and said they are lovely people free to go and come as they please. There is no pressure on them there to stay or go its a really nice place to live in a Christian based community. I think Dialogue Ireland have a cult following myself and are themselves a cult. You guys in dialogue Ireland have lost the plot. Happy Christmas dialogue Ireland hope you have a prosperous new year!’
(This one is familiar to us and is from people who support the House of Prayer. In other words whenever, we raise questions about the Moonies. Or Scientology, Tony Quinn or yourselves they will come in to attack DI. We have no problem with that.)
Aideen-Roscommon, on December 16, 2013 at 10.42pm said:…it is a
‘Fidelma, it is not a “Christian based community”
man called Michael Caulfield who dresses up as a priest at weekends and pretends to say mass. When Michael Caulfield is not in this house at weekends he is with his wife and children in Santry in Dublin. Michael Caulfield lives in Dublin and runs his business “Calfer Insulation” from Dublin. He then comes down to Roscommon for the wends and dresses like a priest. Michael Caulfield is also connected to William Kamm who is currently serving a prison sentence for rape in Australia. Michael Caulfield claims he was ordained by Bishop Ralph Napierski but Napierski is not recognized by the Catholic Church and has no authority to ordain anyone. If you do a little bit of research on these guys you should be able to understand that these are not genuine serious people let alone sincere catholics. These people don’t matter and nobody cares about them (which is probably why they have become delusional)…..what is extremely sad and worrying though is the younger and more vulnerable people that they manipulate and take advantage of. They are destroying lives every day. Innocent lives.’)
(No evidence is produced for this comment and so it is deleted)
Dialogueireland, on December 17, 2013 at 2.19am said:
‘Thanks for that pertinent summary. I am surprised Michael Caulfield has not been interviewed as yet?
I wonder if any of them are computer literate and can make a defence on our blog. We will give them an unedited right to place a post here to argue that they have apostolic succession to Peter? That Bishop Napierski is not a total fraud etc. We will put up soon a number of items to give our readers background on this group.’
With regard to the comment made by Aideen-Roscommon on December 16, 2013:
Firstly, we do not know anyone called Aideen in Roscommon. As you can see from the comment, this is pure hate speech and we believe the commentator is hiding his true identity.
(That section has been removed and as I told you any comment goes onto our blog without moderation. We do not get to them always until it is brought to our attention.)
We would be very pleased if you could fill us in with the details of who this person is.
(Not in a thousand years. Also having an IP address is not the same as having a person’s identity. It is a computer’s identity in a specific location.)
In our view, the comment made by Dialogue Ireland on December 17th, sums up the true character of Dialogue Ireland. In this comment, Dialogue Ireland thank the previous commentator for hate speech.
(We were commending them for their drawing attention to your involvement with Kamm. As I said if you repudiate him publically we will delete more.)
This comment proves that Dialogue Ireland is not an impartial body working to safeguard the human rights of vulnerable adults but is instead an aggressor and biased facilitator of the spreading of lies, hatred and abuse of vulnerable members of society, in this case the target being Michael Caulfield.
(We believe we are by bringing you into public focus getting you to clarify your mission. We do not accept your contention that this is hate speech. I will remind you it is nearly two months since I asked you to send me corrections for me to act on.)
We note that Fidelma from Argentina on December 2nd said something very positive about Our Lady of Refuge but Dialogue Ireland did not comment on it.
(For the obvious reason I know these people who support anything we draw the public attention to.)
Instead they choose to give credence to blatant lies and hate speech. We have highlighted below some of the lies and hate speech in this particular comment:
Lie: ‘It is not a Christian based community’
(in their opinion)
Lie and incitement to hatred: ‘It is a twisted man called Michael Caulfield who dresses up as a priest at weekends and pretends to say mass’
(Relevant section has been removed.)
Lie and incitement to hatred: ‘Michael Caulfield is also connected to William Kamm who is currently serving a prison sentence for rape in Australia.’ Michael Caulfield has absolutely nothing to do with William Kamm. William Kamm alone is responsible for any sins or crimes that he has committed. The fact that William Kamm is in prison for rape has nothing to do with Michael Caulfield. They are separate individuals.
(We accept you are not connected to his criminal activity. But anyone knowing that you freely travelled to Australia to meet him can draw the inference that you have some connection. You have a remedy of renouncing him and we will delete references to him.)
Lie: ‘Napierski is not recognized by the Catholic Church and has no authority to ordain anyone’ All the Congregational documents were registered at the Vatican early March 2013. The Pope is the only one who had a veto but he did not veto the Congregation. Therefore we are approved.
(We totally reject your assertion and unless given documentary evidence to the contrary will not change a thing. Also I formed the opinion in talking to you that once you got your priestly status from him you no longer were interested in him.)
Lie and incitement to hatred: ‘If you do a little bit of research on these guys you should be able to understand that these are not genuine serious people let alone sincere Catholics. These people don’t matter and nobody cares about them (which is probably why they have become delusional)……..what is extremely sad and worrying though is the younger and more vulnerable people that they manipulate and take advantage of. They are destroying lives every day. Innocent lives.’ Every person in Our Lady of Refuge is a devout Catholic. Mr. Garde, since you thanked this commentator for inciting hatred towards members of Our Lady of Refuge, we presume, if this goes to court, that you have evidence to prove that we have been destroying lives every day.
(I have deleted that sentence at your request.)
Article, ‘Scam artist, Chancer, Publicity Seeker, Fake or Real Bishop? Would the real Ralph Napierski please stand up?’
What are you up to Mike Garde? Where is the relevance in all the effort you put in to getting this information or Mis-information? Why is it of any concern to you? Remember what your brief is. As we have already said, the one and only means of checking the validity of a Bishop is by going directly to the Pope.
(We do not accept your premise and therefore until we obtain documentary evidence from you we stand over what we have written.)
The Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge has already been registered at the Vatican. Only the Pope has the right to veto it and he has not done so. Therefore, we are approved.
(With due respect you can’t back up this assumption other than by blind faith.)
Article, ‘Is Michael Caulfield linked to William j. Kamm?’
Dialogue Ireland write on 26th February, 2014:
‘What do we note here?
First it is a rationalisation of inappropriate behaviour and a rationalisation after the event. Reading this section above should give us cause for concern in regard to Michael Caulfield. He claims to be a priest even though he is validly married and has had children. He now claims to be a validly ordained priest. Has he entered into a mystical marriage with a younger woman rationalising this with the support of Napierski? My guess is that he lives a totally separate life from his real wife, and children, drops in now and again to his Dublin home but his real centre of reference is his old family home in Roscommon? Time will tell if this analysis is correct!’
This is so ridiculous. You are literally making things up off the top of your head in order to incite hatred against Michael Caulfield.
(I repeat, “Time will tell if this analysis is correct!”)
Why are you doing this? You should be investigated by the relevant authorities.
(Which relevant authority?)
Aideen-Roscommon, on March 12, 2014 at 8.50pm said:
‘Caulfield is a deluded and dangerous character. I have met him locally and others share the same view. He will not be able to develop his site in Roscommon because he is not intelligent enough to do so.
(This personal attack has been removed.)
No sane or reasonable person would have anything to do with Michael Caulfield. I believe his wife and children have been estranged from him for years. This is why he needs to align himself with more experienced con artists and liars such as Napierski and Kamm. Anyone who associates with these people should be ashamed of themselves. Considering Kamm is currently in prison for rape it is unbelievable that Christine Lammermann would continue to be involved with him and his associates. She is quite happy to see the lives of her own young daughter and other young women being ruined. I wonder do the other people in the picture above actually know who Lammermann is or do they just not care about her associations to a convicted rapist and fraud. Are they that immoral and stupid or have they been brain washed?’
As already stated, we do not know anyone called Aideen in Roscommon so we believe that this person is hiding his/her identity. As you can see from the comment, it is incitement to hatred which is an offence under Irish Law. We are shocked that a person who claims to act to protect the human rights of others has allowed this on his website.
(This personal attack has been removed.)
Please send us the correct name and address of this person because they have already committed a serious offence and you are party to it.
(Put simply no!)
It is worth noting that the Devil only attacks all that is of God. He will never attack his own work. The amount of derogatory misinformation on Dialogue Ireland about such a tiny number (only 6 members in all of Leinster and Connaught) of devout Catholics in Our Lady of Refuge is incredible. The Congregation of Our Lady of Refuge must be from God for it to receive such unwarranted persecution from Dialogue Ireland.
I hope for your sake Mike Garde, that at no stage will this ever go into a court of Law.
(New defamation laws 2009
The Defamation Act 2009, signed into law on 23 July 2009, has abolished the separate torts of slander and libel, replacing them with “the tort of defamation’; defined as “the publication, by any means, of a defamatory statement concerning a person to one or more than one person’: The Act provides that defamation is actionable in itself without needing to prove special damages.
The Act also created a new defence to an allegation of defamation, namely “fair and reasonable publication on a matter of public interest’: This defence has been welcomed by media outlets, who have long campaigned for reform of the libel laws. Significantly, the new Act also allows judges to guide juries on the amount of damages that may be awarded. A person who believes themselves to have been defamed can now seek a Declaratory Order from the Court that a statement was false and defamatory. This is a fast track procedure which can be heard by a sitting judge alone.
The plaintiff must have sought and been refused a retraction/ correction/apology by the defendant. Plaintiffs seeking a Declaratory Order are not entitled to damages as the order itself is considered remedy enough.
For the first time in Irish Law, Section 12 of the Act allows a company to bring a defamation action whether or not it has incurred a financial loss as a result of the alleged defamation. We wait with interest to see how actions of this type will be received
(I am glad you have sought this correction and retraction we are always willing to act. We go beyond that and offer you a full unedited right of reply.)
There are, of course, other comments we could mention but this should be adequate to let you know how we feel.
Please remove all material about Our Lady of Refuge from your website and let Our Lady of Refuge put up its own website, as this is what we intend to do.
(Absolutely and unequivocally not! As to your web site how do you hope to accomplish this when you have no theological education are not informed on Canon law and need to go to your bishop and renounce the priesthood you have embarked on, return to your family not just geographically but also emotionally. Take on a role in your parish in Whitehall and give the bishop the property to have a genuine religious order use it.)
We have an appointment for tomorrow could you confirm by Friday 3PM whether this visit is on?
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