The Sex Lives of Godmen Of spiritual Healers, hypnosis artists and sexual exploiters BY Mihir Srivastava

This essay from Open Magazine/ 5 October 2013 is a very helpful analysis from an Indian perspective of the issues we have been dealing with in regard to both sexual abuse in some Christian contexts, but more directly in regard to our commentary in regard to Tantric Sex in Lamaism. Because it does not directly look at the Tibetan Tantra directly, but shows the way westerners approach this subject it is a helpful mirror to hold up to these practices in the West. It also has relevance for those studying the influence of Tony Quinn.12414.sexlives-1

 

Indian and Western nirvana seekers differ in their attitudes to sexuality.

http://www.openthemagazine.com/article/nation/the-sex-lives-of-godmen
Asaram Bapu is no longer on Aastha channel, his sermons on which had become something of a morning ritual for many Indians over the past few years. He is now in jail, accused of sexually assaulting a 16-year-old girl at his ashram in Jodhpur, Rajasthan. The term ‘bapu’ is an honorific. It means ‘father’ in Hindi, and in a culture where such an elder gets utmost respect, the irony is not lost on all those who sympathise with the victim of his alleged assault.

While there is no reason to suspect all godmen of depravity, it is alarming how common it is for them to sexually exploit their trusting disciples. This report is based on dozens of FIRs and testimonies of victims, as also the views of sociologists and psychologists who have helped victims and interacted with godmen. The term ‘godmen’ here refers not only to cult leaders like Asaram, but all yogis, maulvis, fakirs, gurus, swamis, pastors and priests who make mystical claims and hold devotees in awe.
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The way many of them operate as sexual predators can be generalised. In terms of psychology, they create the paraphernalia to overcome what they suffer from: typically, some form of paraphilia (‘other attraction’ literally) or psychosexual disorder in which they obtain sexual gratification through unusual practices that are harmful or humiliating to others (and socially repugnant). Voyeurism and paedophilia are among the forms it could take.

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Many of them try to draw legitimacy from dubious interpretations of ancient beliefs. “There is a whole esoteric tradition of tantra, where spiritual bliss is achieved by sexual union,” says Kiranmayi Bhushi, a Delhi-based sociologist who has a keen interest in religion and tantra, “They exploit this tradition to lure unsuspecting nirvana seekers, especially from the West.”

Typically, the victims of such predators are either foreigners seeking spiritual solace or girls of middle-class families struggling with the pangs of early adulthood. Sometimes the victims are children, sometimes girls and boys with disabilities.

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Rape, defined mildly, is sex without consent. A rapist creates an environment or situation where the seeking of consent becomes redundant. This is because the power equation between the perpetrator and the victim is skewed against the latter. For this reason, ashrams are “potentially prime sites of violations”, says Sanjay Srivastava, a professor of Sociology at Delhi University’s Institute of Economic Growth. At an ashram, the presiding guru is supreme. By tradition, he is not to be questioned. He is a spiritual master at whose feet his disciples are required to relinquish their ego. “The disciples are abject in front of the guru,” says Srivastava. The idea of consent, in contrast, is one of equality. It is a modern concept, he says. And in a situation where the very individuality of the disciple is rendered non-existent, consent loses relevance.

Gurus who prey on their disciples often pretend to be spiritual healers who, inspired by a higher purpose, insist on the use of their sexual organs to bestow them with beneficence. They draw strength from superstitions, thrive on the naivete of those who see them as godly, and pose as mediators of divine favour. Their seduction scripts may vary but are always purposive and well-rehearsed with spiritual talk to trap gullible children, women and men.

“I have stopped commenting on people’s sex lives,” says Sudhir Kakar, a leading psychoanalyst and writer, in response to a question on the phenomenon. His refers me to his book Mad and Divine that examines the relationship between religious rituals and healing traditions, both Eastern and Western, and also details the lives of some extraordinary men. The book has chapters on Osho Rajneesh, Satya Sai Baba and the Buddhist seer Drukpa Kunley. Among the points Kakar’s book makes is that godmen often repress their sexuality, denying it vent, very early in their lives. As they age, however, they begin to lose their carnal restraints as their sexuality re-asserts itself forcefully. It is a potent urge that needs to be integrated with their day-to-day selves. And being in positions of power with so many devotees in such abject genuflection to their larger-than-life images, they find easy opportunities to indulge that urge.

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Sex at such ashrams is marketed as a healing tool. Take the case of this working couple in their early thirties, married for five years and living in south Delhi: the Sharmas. Their basic problem, as they explained to a cult leader they had faith in, was that they had no problem big enough to challenge them anymore. They had lost the magic in their relationship and lives.

The cult leader, a prominent figure on television, gave them a close hearing and asked them to stay over at his ashram located in the Himalayan foothills. Within two days of their arrival there, they were huddled into a dimly lit hall with about 50 other people—singles, couples, even groups, most of them approaching middle-age—to be treated to a rhythmic recital of musical mantras.

After a brief sermon on the merit of ‘letting go’, the session started. As it went on, the lights grew dimmer and the music deafening till the point that the Sharmas could neither see nor talk to each other. Like everyone else, they were swaying with the rhythm, and were soon separated in a maze of dancing silhouettes. It was now a hallful of warm bodies, a sort of single organic mass with all identities blurred, as everyone began hugging, patting and kissing someone or the other. The Sharmas did, too—who, they did not know.

“This way, they destroy all previous bondings,” says J, a 45-year-old British woman who was sexually exploited by a yoga guru with whom she was staying. She speaks of her experiences here over Skype. She loves India, J says, but loves to hate godmen. They destroy all bonds that people may have had before they reach the ashram, as if everything one did till that point was futile. She chafes as she recollects her time in Pune, where she was reduced to a sex worker for a guru she does not want to name. “I was like his dasi (slave),” says J, “I was made to believe his sexually exploitation of me was a gift to cherish.”

It is usually about the forging of new bonds, the most potent being the one with the godman himself. This is the bond that defines everything else. It is an unequal one, in that it is taboo even to think of asking the godman a question.

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Disciples must commit themselves to unconditional faith in him. The godman works his charm through a skillful modulation of voice, which has a “hypnotic quality to it”, says J. “I would feel that the voice is coming from distant place when he spoke to me.”

After their dim hall session, the Sharmas had sexual liaisons— individually—with many others. They felt elated by the experience. It was what their dull lives had been missing, it seemed. Their guilt in the extramarital romps subsided as the evening proceeded and euphoria rose. There was a hum in the air as they subsumed their selves in the larger whole. It was all about selfless devotion. Sexual devotion to the guru usually follow such communes. “[Godmen] have in them an insatiable need to have sex because they practice yoga, which activates their kundalis—the centres of their consciousness,” says one of the Sharmas.

One-on-one sessions are held in the privacy of the guru’s chamber, and disciples are informed of the schedule in advance. These invitations are issued with words that portray it as an honour, a profound event that would uplift and change their lives forever. Disciples are often given some reading material which they may not share with anyone else. In a few cases, a private date with the godman is announced all of a sudden, taking the victims and their families by surprise. Asaram Bapu was known for such instant turns of whim.

Sharma, the wife, remembers the private ‘blessings’ they received at the ashram only faintly, in disjoint flashes of memory. Her husband was asked to spend that night meditating. She has vague recollections of being touched, embraced, of a damp floor in a smoky room with a flickering red lamp, and of an abdomen stirred with sensations. After that, she remembers nothing. She woke up when two women shook her. “You have been blessed by the Guruji,” she was told.

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Victims rarely speak out, but do disclose how godmen seek to combine yoga with sex. In many cases, the chosen person is asked to sit in lotus position in front of the godman amid elaborate preparations for a ritual: fire, incense, fruits and so on. The guru maintains a meditative pose with eyes shut, as if in direct communion with divinity, and then makes a short sermon that involves touch as a means to get the message across.

A Russian girl who was raped in Rishikesh multiple times told a psychologist that when her rapist godman would touch her forehead, she would feel his energy transfer into her. “It was so soothing,” she recounts of her first time. The touch turned into an embrace, and she remembers the security of the warmth she had felt. He then asked her to take her clothes off for an unimpeded transfer of energy, had her sit on his lap, and went ahead.

Some brazenly sexual acts are accorded the status of divine rituals. According to a 27-year-old girl, a software engineer based in Bangalore, she was made to perform rudrabhishek on a guru in Pune who she had trusted. This ritual required her to pour milk and honey on his penis and fellate him.

In another case, a cult leader who was once hailed as one of India’s biggest individual earners of foreign exchange, asked a Frenchman who was 35 at the time to lie flat and naked on the floor. After applying sandalwood paste on his chest and forehead, the guru placed a foot on his abdomen as if he was a doormat, and then bent forward and held his penis in his fist for half an hour as a conduit of energy.

“This is not spiritualism,” objected the Frenchman as the godman began a session of oral conduction. But so taken was he with the “enormously gracious” presence of his guru, he gave in to his will without further protest. “His fingers had an electric charge,” he says, recalling how the guru ran his hands through his hair as he performed oral sex. “He made perfect sense to me about what I was experiencing in my life at that point,” he says.

Today, the Frenchman has mixed feelings about that experience. He hadn’t felt violated, but was left puzzled. “It is the undigested part of my spiritual appetite,” he says, in recognition now of the farce that it was. His fascination with spiritualism in India, however, has not diminished. He is camping in Dharamshala these days.

While some have vivid memories, many of those exploited have only foggy details of it, a result of the hynoactive methods these godmen use—often along with sedatives and psychoactive drugs. “Godmen redefine reality for them,” says Rajat Mitra, a psychologist who has dealt with godmen and their victims, “They shake their core identity traits. They convince what they did so far was all in vain. They have a powerful pull.”

It is not uncommon for those who believe they need healing to have their bodies respond receptively to sexual stimuli. An orgasm, in such a paradigm, is a form of spiritual awakening.

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A psychologist who has studied cases of rape was hired by a renowned church in north India to monitor a preacher who was transferred from Europe, where he was found indulging in acts of paedophilia. He was in Delhi for a year and the psychologist would hold regular psychoanalytical sessions with him.

Later, the preacher was found to have established liaisons with young boys even in India. “They just can’t control themselves,” says the psychologist, who doesn’t want to be named. The higher authorities of the Church were informed of the preacher’s inclinations, and he was transferred to a country in Africa.

The following incident is bizarre. A 15-year-old girl was raped on the first floor of her own family house in West Delhi by a tantric. Her family members heard her cry out, but did not intervene because they assumed it was part of an occult ritual. The tantric had promised the family a change in their fortunes if they let him perform this hours-long exercise in isolation except for the company of a ‘pure soul’, which he convinced them resides in the bodies of adolescent virgin girls. The family volunteered their own 15-year-old daughter. The tantric left with assurances of a turn in the family’s luck. The girl was too dazed to say anything. Later, when she told them what had happened, the family refused to believe her. By the time they realised the enormity of the crime, it was too late to haul up the tantric. He had gone missing.

In another shocking case, the Gurbani lessons of a teenager turned to horror. The girl, the daughter of a university professor in Delhi, always sang well and so her parents arranged for a granthi (learned in the Guru Granth Sahib), a man in his late twenties, to visit their home twice a week to give her lessons in religious singing. She found his pats of encouragement inappropriate, and so she complained to her parents of discomfort with the teacher’s touch. They did not see anything amiss and asked her to carry on taking classes. And then one day, when the girl’s parents were away, he sexually assaulted her.

The case of K Ramesh, a priest at a church in Gosavedu village in Gampalagudem mandal is another example of such a sickening violation of trust. Ramesh was arrested on charges of raping a 16-year-old Scheduled Tribe girl who he had taken to Hyderabad with her parents’ permission on the assurance that he would take care of her education. He raped her several times over the next few days, returned with her to Gosavedu, and assaulted her again. The girl’s father reported the matter to the police.

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“Sex is the only way they get a high,” observes Mitra, who has a close understanding of the phenomenon.

Victims do resist the advances of godmen, but they often do not even realise when a red line of violation has been crossed.

No consent is either sought or obtained, since rape is packaged as a healing process or some other form of blessing.

The Briton who was raped about seven times over a span of ten days by a yoga guru in Haridwar smelt a rat when he told her that she would have to sleep with other preachers at the ashram for the upliftment of her soul.

According to Mitra, ill-intended commune activities tend to dismantle those aspects of victims’ personalities by which they invoke individual choices. This blurs their instinct of self-preservation, leaving them vulnerable and emotionally dependent on the godman. “The collective sessions are hypnotic in nature,” says Mitra, “and they make your previous self dissolve in the collective… This gives [victims] a sense of liberty because they are detached from their past—a cause of stress and indignation in their lives. But this liberty is laced with vulnerability.”

Having observed godmen, Mitra points out some common aspects of their behaviour and psyche. For example, by raising their arms and spreading them wide while facing their followers, they adopt a posture that gives them a sense of power. They have usually had difficult childhoods, been exposed to scriptures and spirituality early in life (impressing onlookers), and are typically rebellious attention-seekers as a personality type.

The sad part is how often they get away with their exploitation of devotees. Many victims do not lodge complaints, says Mitra, as they are ashamed of how they allowed it to happen in the first place. In the broader social context, Srivastava speaks of a need for people to anchor themselves firmly against insecurities caused by rapid changes in the environment and economy. Godmen sometimes give followers a moral blanket of security that helps restrain their consumerist streak. It is a notional shelter that need not be as safe as they suppose. Srivastava also says that Indian and Western nirvana seekers differ in their attitudes to sexuality. In India, he says, the faculties that “question hierarchies” remain stunted. Also, rape here is seen as defilement of a woman’s body. In the West, ever since the alternative movements of the 1960s, rebels against the strict sexual norms of Christianity have looked towards India as a relaxed place where sex is seen as ennobling, as part of a spiritual quest.

“In Goa, they do it openly: sex, drugs and spiritualism is one wholesome package,” says a 43-year-old Russian painter who spends three months in Goa every year and has visited dozens of ashrams and retreats in India. “Many ashrams in Varanasi do the same,” she says, bemused, “but never acknowledge it as carnal.”

Such godmen thrive on cult support, of which they have found plenty overseas, says J. The Western youth of the 1960s and 70s were experimental, she says, and since they were rebellious and did not know what they wanted, they saw deviant lifestyles as profound. This demand drew legions of godmen of all descriptions, all of them holding aloft the prospect of a better life by blurring the line between carnal and spiritual pursuits. “These two worlds merge,” says J. One day, she promises, she will write a book about how ungodly these godmen are.

23 Responses

  1. Got it now Dialogue. He is using the same material in his “formative learning” the word formative meaning “having a strong influence in the development of something”. Surely the use of hypnotic methods in education are against the law? How does he get away with using it as an educational system? He should be banned from advertising.

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  2. Raja Yoga
    I recall being told by Aideen Cowman that sitting in a chair to practice relaxation is the highest form of yoga. It was not referred to as anything other than that. Now I have found out that it is a Hindu practice of Raja Yoga and its sole purpose is to join the mind with the guru god. My understanding that I would be able to use my energy for self-healing and making changes in my life, having freedom to use my God given conscience, is very far away from the result they wanted. I was misled and hypnotically influenced, without prior knowledge, to “yoke” myself to Tony Quinn. The very thought of “yoking” myself to him strikes me as abhorrent, a nightmare of slavery where he and his core group would ‘direct’ what I did with my time and money, how I would use my time socially and how I would be separated from family and friends, not forgetting how I would be influenced to recruit. Whatever the so called benefits, I am glad I did not lend myself to the Educo cultic Hindu madness. One has to be aware of the false cultic personality, the false ego, in the cold light of day and I ask you, is that what you really wanted?

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  3. Please end the sentence and explain.

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  4. christianity is a joke

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  5. Just to underline how much this “influence” is spreading: Has anyone noticed the similarity of the “phenomenons” occuring at guru gatherings and at gatherings of evangelicans? For example:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toronto_Blessing

    Pro: “… ecstatic worship, … falling or resting in the Spirit, laughter, shaking, and crying, … ‘Holy laughter’ … roaring like lions … physical manifestations of the Holy Spirit’s presence and power …”

    Con: “… hysterical and spiritually dangerous … self-centred … a matter of people being enslaved into altered states of consciousness where they obscure reality and enshrine absurdity …”

    One man’s blessing is another man’s curse. Words can be very easily (and intentionally) abused and redefined.

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  6. Thanks for this article and for sharing the above movie. I think about two very basic issues here.

    1) Free will
    What do we think about overpowering people by means which they can not understand? For example from the above:
    – “… pretend to be … healers …, draw strength from superstitions, thrive on … naivete … pose as mediators of divine …”
    – “… destroy all previous bondings …”
    – “… made to believe … exploitation … was a gift to cherish …”
    – “… voice, which has a ‘hypnotic quality to it’ …”
    – promoting “… selfless devotion … sexual devotion …”
    – “… touch … energy transfer …”
    – “… soothing … security of the warmth …”
    – “… occult ritual …”
    – “… hypnoactive methods … often along with sedatives and psychoactive drugs … a powerful pull …”
    – leaving people “… too dazed to say anything …”
    – “… collective sessions … hypnotic in nature … dissolve in the collective …”

    2) Religious tolerance
    What do we think about thinking in extremes? “Blame the entire Indian civilization”? “Hollowness of Christianity”, “foolish christians like you”? If we were to accept that words can hurt, then the above could be an indication that very well there is a “… place of violence …” in humans.

    What I find important is, 40 years later, after the 60’s and 70’s, we have not learned how to deal with these issues. But it seems we are getting a second chance. Westerners tried to understand some inner details of Hindu beliefs to some degree. Are Hindu people trying to understand inner details of christian belief, too? So we can understand the difference and from that understanding are able to peacefully coexist without violating the other’s borders? Or is that not necessary because all of christianity is “hollow” and “foolish”?

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  7. It would be a good idea if you read my comments before you give an opinion. There is nothing “hollow” about Christianity. I have never pursued another religion, never mind Hinduism. The cultic Educo leader, Tony Quinn, whose classes I attended for RELAXATION, foists plagiarised religious belief systems, Hinduism possibly being the main influence during the early days. His ‘philosophy’, according to him, is unique. To this day he considers himself a unique ‘thinker’ and does not share where his ideas/plagiarising comes from. At RELAXATION classes I felt energy around me, which seems innocent enough until the realisation dawned that Quinn and others working for him used HYPNOSIS, not so much to change your life/awareness, but primarily to change YOUR MIND to the extent that ‘being’ becomes an obsession, considered the ‘perfect’ state which suited them for their purposes; open to hypnotic influence is ‘being’ exactly where they want you to be.

    There is a huge difference between relaxing into yourself, having no thought so all of your energy is available for healing, which is how I understood it, and being overwhelmed by others energy and hypnotised into accepting their beliefs and acting on orders; Quinn’s ‘philosophy’ is a distortion of truth to get what he wants out of life; cult leaders are notorious for influencing others to serve their needs and wants.

    The glaring reality that brought me out from under Quinn’s pseudo-religious and greedy self serving undue influence is knowing the difference between right and wrong; my Christian up-bringing has served me well.

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  8. Hello Angie and Chris – why don’t you admit that the hollowness of Christianity has brought people like you to look eastward towards Hinduism but unfortunately you have connected with some frauds. There is no place of violence in Hinduism and and a as a matter of fact the these Tantric Meditation are only for some foolisgh Christians like you ..yes you should protest against these fake Babas and you will find almost whole of India backing you!

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  9. Mental abuse also and the reason why so many need psychiatric care.

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  10. Commenters are given the opportunity to give the public information about cultic experiences, by that I mean sexual abuse, physical abuse and spiritual abuse. Asking Dialogue to post ‘positive’ cultic experiences is a ridiculous request.

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  11. Saurabh Kaushik

    Did you watch the video “All about Hinduism”? Somehow I doubt it. Dialogue may not be concerned about religious belief systems, the individual can believe what they want to and Dialogue is only interested in if there is abuse involved, cultic manipulation, however, I do not want eastern religions having influence in my life and I would want Ireland’s Christian heritage remaining intact. Due to my experience I found the eastern religions to be the exact opposite of Christianity. The teachings of Christ are not hindu yet we seem to be bombarded with eastern religions that are cunningly fabricating links to Christ, being deceived into accepting a distorted belief system. If you want the evidence for this, look at the link provided by Chris.

    No doubt the story of St Patrick has been diluted and near forgotten, instead we have a day of celebration, however, if we ever did need someone to banish snakes from Ireland it is NOW.

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  12. And what about thousands of foreign migrants who are a part of Hare-rama Hare krishna mission & living an authentic life with an inspiration for themselves & others….I accept this fact that most of the sadhus/Babas who display themselves as godman are not at all true and in fact they have no right to fool others or project a misinterpreted definition of a saint, but still you are not at all authorised to blame the entire Indian civilization for the sake of some negative elements. Real Diamonds are very rare and a true seeker is only able o find them.Even in developed nations lie US or UK these countries have betrayers, criminals & corrupt people…….so by this should I take this as the whole country is corrupt or what?

    Would request you to focus on and pick the positive side too in respect of spiritualism of India.

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  13. “Raja Yoga Meditation, Yoga of the mind, is the highest form of meditation linking to the Supreme Being and through this yoga I become the ruler of my own self, over my mind and my life.”

    I remember Aideen Cowman saying that what we were doing was the highest form of meditation. It was never explained as a way to release the kundalini. Chakras were not mentioned while I attended. It was never explained as a form of yoga that had the potential to change a person to such a degree they would commit violence towards another, even kill. Whatever Aideen Cowman did to me the last time I sat in her class and the effects of it could easily have led to a total breakdown. I honestly do not know how I came out of it accept to pray to God and seek protection from the Archangel Michael. I am not surprised that I wanted to attack her and the Fordes. The image of how I attacked them was very frightening (I won’t go into detail) as I had never imagined such violence nor did I think myself capable of it. Gradually I managed to stop it altogether, however, when in a certain environment it became active again and instead of feeling frightened I performed the act in my mind with no feeling whatsoever. Is this the required outcome to become available to the guru to perform violent acts against others? I believe it is.

    I had witnessed the level of aggressive anger one invokes when questioning or standing up to Quinn, the self-made ‘guru’. I witnessed a highly strung young man sit in conversation and his clenched fist in my view.

    Quinn’s stories about reading books on Yoga as a child are more than likely a pack of lies and served only to give his followers an image of him being highly intelligent. His father considered him a genius because he could draw an upside-down picture. Now, what was that all about? Not to confuse his acquirement of a Dr. of Hypnotherapy credential in a bogus University that he did need to attend, the rumour was that he acquired his training and studied with a particular group of people (names unknown) in the United States. The above film certainly explains why he was drawn there. His dream was that we should all live in a superficial world that resembled the time of the 60’s.

    “In the West, ever since the alternative movements of the 1960s, rebels against the strict sexual norms of Christianity have looked towards India as a relaxed place where sex is seen as ennobling, as part of a spiritual quest.”

    The above does not surprise me at all. It explains why Educo male cult members found it comparatively easier to befriend females to join for the ‘Guru’s’ benefit and it also explains why their gym in Eccles Street was referred to as a brothel. It also explains the high rate of marriage breakdown that occurs in this cult.

    That film should be shown on television.

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  14. “A psychologist who has studied cases of rape was hired by a renowned church in north India to monitor a preacher who was transferred from Europe, where he was found indulging in acts of pedophilia. He was in Delhi for a year and the psychologist would hold regular psychoanalytical sessions with him.

    Later, the preacher was found to have established liaisons with young boys even in India. “They just can’t control themselves,” says the psychologist, who doesn’t want to be named. The higher authorities of the Church were informed of the preacher’s inclinations, and he was transferred to a country in Africa.”

    Who is monitoring his behaviour in Africa? What is the preacher’s name and shouldn’t it be made public?

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  15. The Dalai Lama has been meeting with the Vishva Hindu Parishad for years. from their own words :

    “The right wing Vishwa Hindu Parishad organization was formed in 1964 by Swami Chinmayananda as president and former Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS) member S.S. Apte as general secretary, with Master Tara Singh as one of the co-founders[4]. It was first mooted at a conference in Pawai, Sandipani Sadhanalaya, Mumbai on 29 August 1964. The conference was hosted by RSS sarsanghchalak M.S. Golwalkar. The date coincided with the festival of Janmashtami. Several representatives from the Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist and Jain faiths were present in the meeting, as well as the Dalai Lama. Golwalkar explained that “all faiths of Indian origins need to unite”, saying that the word “Hindu” (i.e. people of “Hindustan”) applied to adherents of all the above religions[5]. Apte declared:

    Tibetan ‘Buddhism’ is not Buddhism it is Hinduism. They are working together openly now Hindu occultism and Tibetan Lamaism are the same. Except Lamaism uses the concepts of Buddhist ‘compassion’.

    . Tsoknyi R , enabler of Sogyal and ‘best friend” incorporates Hindu Hare Krishna chanting in his so called Dzogchen retreats.
    Notice that the Hindus use the same technques, as the Dalai Lama does through his Mind Life Institute i.e. a ‘scientific mask’ that it is not ‘religious’ but “scientific” they both use ‘deception’ to infltrate and colonize.

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  16. TM a Hindu Based meditation- is now infiltrating into the army along with Insight Meditation a mix of Theravadin Buddhism and Tibetan Lamaism meditation, Sharon Salzberg, devotee of Sogyal R and honored by Oprah, founded “Insight meditation” Now they have infiltrated Homeland Security and the U.S. Army::

    http://inhomelandsecurity.com/meditation-and-the-military/

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  17. This is an old film on the Dangers of Indian HInduism Guruism and Yoga. It was of course dismissed as too Christian , but its warnings are more relevant than ever more than 25 years later when Hindu culture and its concepts and beliefs are everwhere now, even within Christianity:

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  18. quote that was up on the 969 website,(found on the link below) on Sept 2013, about the Kalachakra, but was since taken down, probably by the controlled media influenced by the Dalai Lama clique still:

    “The Kalachakra is a Tibetan Buddhist doctrine on the cycles of time. In addition to being a text, meditation practice, and initiation ritual, Kalachakra is a prophecy for the victory of the Buddhist religion in a war with Islam.

    Beginning in 712AD and continuing through 1030AD, India was subject to massive annual invasions from Muslims who eventually conquered and destroyed much of the cultural heritage of India. In a final desperate act to annihilate Buddhism, in 1193, Nalanda University which was home to the greatest center of learnings in the East was destroyed, with thousands of monks beheaded. The destruction of the temples, monasteries, centres of learning at Nalanda and northern India to be responsible for the demise of ancient Indian scientific thought in mathematics, astronomy, alchemy, and anatomy. Much of what modern scholarship of Buddhist studies puzzles over today was contained in the manuscripts and minds of those who were lost during this calamity. However as the Kalachakra Tantra shows, the war between Dhamma and Islam is not over, nor is it. The prophecy includes detailed descriptions of the future invaders as well as suggested ways for the Buddhist teachings to survive these onslaughts.

    The Dalai Lama has stated that the public exposition of this tantra is necessary in the current degenerate age. The initiation may be received simply as a blessing for the majority of those attending, however, many of the more qualified attendees do take the commitments and subsequently engage in the practice.”

    From the CSC Center for Strategic Communication”

    http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:4LjhmgZgdTAJ:csc.asu.edu/page/32/%3Fcat%3Dbufvbpjlpzcbbnjc+&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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  19. Correction “holy war with the non “Buddhists” particuarly Muslims. We have opened the ‘floodgates” to energies we little understand and cultures we haven’t a clue about we are so naive.

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  20. Between the spread of tantric HInduism , Indian style, through Yoga centers and Ashrams, and the spread of tantric Hinduism, Tibetan Lama style, the west is being colonized by another radical ‘fundamentalism” by stealth, while worrying about Islam.

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  21. One of the greatest contributions of Dr. Ambedkar , a Columbia University Phd, professor and later joined the London School of Economics, who was part of writing the Constitution for Indian, Democracy, in respect to”Fundamental Rights and Directive Principles of State Policy enshrined in the Constitution of India”. The Fundamental Rights provide for freedom, equality and abolition of Untoucability and remedies to ensure the enforcement of rights. On the 14th of October, 1956, Babasaheb Ambedkar, a scholar on Hindusim embraced true Buddhism and he launched a crusade to expose the corruptions of Hinduism that continued to prevent ending the caste system in India, which still exists, thanks to these Godmen of Hinduism and Tantra Vajarayana master slave paradigms. Ambedkar referred to the Tibetan Lamas, as The “Brahmin Buddhists”, not true Buddhism at all , but simply more of the same, theme and variation of the Hindu Godmen.

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  22. Padmasambhava , correct spelling. Padmasambhava brought Indian Tantra to the masses of the people in Tibet, from India, and as it spread further, the Tibetan people became mentally and physically enslaved to these God men Lamas. Their whole culture ‘stopped’ in a time warp. and they were then plunged into darkness and misery.

    That is what they are doing throughout the world now, as their tax free empires , worth multimillions, 100’s and 100’s of these Lama centers everywhere are being built to prepare for the the great Lama Buddhocracy that they wish to usher in, when the whole world , they believe, will be under their sway. That is the prophecy of the Kalachakra of the Dalai Lama, which is really about a violent holy war with the non-Tibetan ‘Buddhist religions” their goal is to enslave whole populations as they did in Tibet through their sexual occult tantra.

    This is the most terrible ‘trojan horse’ the world has ever seen, while pretending to be here to bring more ‘happiness’ and ‘peace.’ Nothing could be further from the truth. Since they have spread their tantric vajrayana, they have influenced even traditional religions, they spread confusion and chaos, they break up families,spread promiscuity and more misogyny, they distroy order in a society, but that is there goal to spread confusion and chaos, in order that their Tibetocracy can bring in a repressive authoritarian ‘order’ out of the chaos. That is the real ‘Shift in Consciousness’ that they are planning. Everywhere they infiltrate , they bring more chaos and violence, not peace.

    The time of ‘moral relativism’ that they are spreading must cease.

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  23. Tibetan “Buddhism’s Lamas are the same Godmen. This is what they
    inherited from India, and Padmansambha , an Indian Sadhu of Tantric Varjayana, ‘their highest teaching’ after the seduce everyone into the Tantric miasma, with just the words of the Buddha, such as compassion. It is the Gods of Hindu Tantra whom these Lama cults worship not the Buddha or his teachings. Once the connection is made between these sexually abusing Hindus and sexually abusing Lamas, a ‘lightbulb’ will go off and illuminate and cut through these Lama deceptions. Between the Yoga Tantra ‘meditations’ of the Hindus, and the Tantra of the Lamas, our young western women are being seduced into these cults, or at the least influenced by these cult ideas, while believing it is about more freedom.. It is to dumb generations down further and further into great confusion and unhappiness while promising the ‘bliss of happiness.’ with these Lamas and god men.

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