‘Tantrismuskritik blog,’ explores the abuses of Tantric Lamaism

Marte-Micaela Riepe’s name misattributed to ‘Tantrismuskritik.

Here you will find the legal judgement of Marte-Micaela Riepe’s court case:

http://tantrismuskritik.blogspot.de/2013/04/protokoll-der-verhandlung-von-marte.html?showComment=1377508228874

Tantric sex is the essence of Tibetan Buddhism. The lamas think they could achieve enlightenment via having sex with women. Therefore, the lamas have to make love with women every day. Therefore, the lamas have to eat meat to gain energy for having sex which violates the Buddhist precepts.

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Neither Western nor Eastern lamas are real Buddhists. The Couple-Practice exists in Tibetan Buddhism, but never in orthodox Buddhism. The Western people still think Tibetan Buddhism is one sect of Buddhism and tantric sex is one part of the Buddhist teachings. This is wrong. These wrong thoughts make/are making the clarification difficult that the sexual abuses are the results of Lamaistic teachings and the criminal lamas are not bad apples.

couple practice tantra

http://tantrismuskritik.blogspot.ie/2012/05/occult-force-and-sexual-abuse-by-lamas.html

Here is one recent comment on this blog which brings home to us the reality of the sordid abuse which is trivialized as consensual sex, by a generation that has lost its bearings in a sea of relativism:
Here is the whole text

Anonymous

August 24, 2013 at 3:55 PM
I have been sexually abused by Ole Nydahl myself. There was an age difference of about 40 years between us when he had sex with me and I was in very difficult circumstances, feeling unsure about myself, my future and my life in general. I feel that he totally misused my faith and longing for a more meaningful life and my openness as a student. It seemed to me that letting him have sex with me was what I had to do in order to please my teacher and in order to learn and to improve myself. I had to undergo a lot  therapy to try to get over these experiences but the wounds are still deep. I would strongly warn everybody to not go near this man who cannot control his sexual desire and misuses his own students for his pleasure. He did not care if I wanted to sleep with him or not, He sometimes woke me up in the middle of the night, just to have sex and when I was half asleep and very tired. He overpowered  me and  he left me feeling  I had lost my will to live he totally disempowered me due to his abuse of my vulnerability. “I have had a lot of counselling to try to get over these experiences but the wounds are still deep and I would warn everybody in the  strongest terms to go no where near this man who cannot control his sexual desire and misuses his own students for his pleasure. How this person can be considered a spiritual teacher is what I cannot understand any more. I find his behaviour extremely irresponsible, careless and dangerous. I am thankful that this blog exists and wish I would have been informed before so I would not have had these very difficult experiences.

“It seemed to me that letting him have sex with me was what I had to do in order to please my teacher and in order to learn and to improve myself. ”

It should be treated as a crime. In Germany we call it “Unzucht mit Abhängigen”. But as far as the whole lot of the ugly and disgusting lamas seem not to be bound by a code of practice like teachers, psychotherapists and doctors there seems to be no way for them to be stopped or disciplined.
Shame on you, Ole Nydahl, shame on you! You really are a dirty old and greedy for sex bum and be sure, I would cut off your cock if I could! Shame on you! How many broken souls you have still left?

Until today I was “protecting” you from the  “rumours” like surrounding Sogyal and others because I had not experienced and watched it when I was in DW.. But this testimony shows me you are a Tantric practitioner who is totally out of control and it would be better for all you us if did not exist.

That´s what I really think. Again, shame on you,  you bastard!

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  1. I hope you get the answers to your questions. I do not have any experience with lamas, however, I have had with Tony Quinn in the Educo cult who incorporates Hindu beliefs and practices into his belief system so am very familiar with being under the influence of hypnosis. Do not doubt your experiences as you describe them very clearly and, as I said, I am very familiar with them and I believe that is exactly the outcome they want. I also believe that once you have undergone this type of experience it makes you more vulnerable to other manipulative energy and mind controlling practitioners. The whole process is geared to take over your mind.

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  2. Just a follow up to my last post, it seems that teachers, such as the Dalai Lama and Lama Zopa (who are considered mainstream and not controversial within TB), use real dakinis (women who are very advanced practitioners) and they do not just fool around with vulnerable, inexperienced women. Is this true, or do any of you know differently from PERSONAL experience? I am not part of their inner circle, nor do I ever expect to be, so my knowledge is limited, so I don’t know what’s really going on. Because I don’t think I’ll ever be part of the inner circle, I won’t ever really know. But it seems there is this woman, who is considered a very realized being and she seems to be the khandro that hangs around the high Gelug lamas. I have not heard of any other women that hang around them, although there might be some that I haven’t heard of yet. It would seem to me that if they limit tantric practices to women who are realized and have certain qualifications, then I don’t see what is wrong with that. It does not appear (from the outside looking in) that there is any abuse of vulnerable women going on, at least with these particular teachers. Yes, I have read the Trimondi’s book about Kalachakra Tantra and TB, etc., but I know that some of the information in the book is not correct, so I wonder how much of it can be believed. I don’t want to go into the parts I feel were incorrect right now, but I can elaborate if you need more detail. But what I really want to know is: can anyone provide INSIDE information so I can know the truth, one way or the other? I repeat, I want MAINSTREAM information, not just gossip, opinions, or experiences within controversial groups. I want to know if the mainstream lamas are doing anything like what you are describing. Does anyone really know?

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  3. I realize that groups, such as New Kadampa Tradition (NKT), Ole Nydhal, the rival Karmapa (not the *official* Karmapa) and Geshe Micheal Roach, Sogyal Rinpoche, etc., are controversial and cult-like in their approach. Even within mainstream Tibetan Buddhism, they are often criticized and some of these sects are even shunned. What I want to know is this: how many of you have actually experienced similar abuses and cult-like environments while studying within mainstream Buddhist groups or with teachers, such as the Dalai Lama, the *official* Karmapa, Lama Zopa or other such lamas? I just want to know whether there is any appreciable difference between the so-called “fringe” groups within Tibetan Buddhism, or whether they are all the same and the mainstream groups are just pretending to be different. Sometimes there is not a clear distinction between what is considered acceptable in TB and what is considered improper. This is what I am trying to get clear about. Is there a difference at all? DO they all abuse women and use tantra in this way, or is it just certain controversial groups?

    I have personally eperienced a lot of what you people have been saying about Kundalini awakening and other occult experiences around lamas. Sometimes I willingly opened up to a lama, (on a psychic level), yet other times they forced their way into my mind whether I liked it or not. My worst experience was when I attended a lecture by Tsogyal Rinpoche. I did not want to make a spiritual connection with him, yet I could not get him out of my mind for a whole week and it was as if he had totally taken over my mind and my thoughts, against my will! Before I attended his lecture, I was aware of him as a controversial teacher and I had no intention of making any sort of spiritual connection with him, yet it seemed he had the ability to overpower me, at least for a short time. Fortunately, I managed to clear my self of his psychic influence and I will never go near him again – EVER. Despite the fact that a lot of people believe he has no occult powers, I do believe he is very powerful and he definitely has the ability to hypnotize. I did not even sit close to him and he still had the ability to get into my mind. Another similar kind of experience was when a local lama gave a gnondro transmission and (similar to what happened with Tsogyal) I could not get him out of my mind and had to fight to get my mind back. I even felt growing love and devotion for him, even though I did not wish to feel that kind of a connection with him. I think they are using magic and mind control techniques, otherwise I wouldn’t keep falling under their spells and having to fight them off. Even with my own lama, who I was willing to accept as my guru, I wonder if I have also been under his spell as well. My connection with him was even stronger and sometimes I would remain in an altered state for several weeks or months after attending his talks or being in his presence, even for a brief time. Perhaps I am still under his control. Every time I even think of this lama, I feel as though I am subtly going into a trance state and my whole way of thinking changes. That’s when I start to believe all the mumbo-jumbo in TB and can no longer think independently for myself. Part of me doesn’t want to believe I am being mind-controlled by my own lama, who I felt a great deal of devotion for, but I am starting to wonder if perhaps I have been under some kind of spell, even with him.

    I would like to get clear about what is really going on in TB and I would like to hear from people who have had negative experiences within MAINSTREAM TB and not just with the controversial groups, such as NKT and the other controversial groups mentioned above. As long as no one comes forward about mainstream lamas, a part of me believes it’s just the controversial ones making trouble and perhaps my own gurus are okay, (because they are not considered “controversial” within TB itself). Then I start to question my own sanity when I start doubting my own teachers and I wonder if I am the one who is crazy for doubting them. I would feel less crazy if people could relate experiences within mainstream TB that were cult-like or disturbing, etc. Does this line of reasoning make any sense? I don’t want to hear assumptions and gossip, or opinions based on experiences with controversial TB groups, such as NKT. I want to hear about actual experiences that people have actually had within mainstream TB groups and with mainstream Tibetan lamas. Then maybe I’ll get more clear-headed about whether the whole of TB is actually a mind-control cult, or whether it is just the controversial groups that are causing most of the trouble.

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  4. This are the sad facts of the power abuse of the Ole Nydhal sanghas , a group of people who just serve and adore their leader.
    I remember that in the group I have sometimes been, one of this very male “pupils” said to me before a lecture of this Lama in Zürich – “If he would be a women he would sleep with Ole”!
    I just thought this guy is mad, but than i recognized that there is a group pressure to the female pupils. For the status and the spiritual power of all the so called Ole Sanghas.
    Thanks for this thread!

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  5. In my opinion this lecture from Marte-Micaela Riepe is very helpfull for victims of abuse by the Lamaism Cult , but unfortunately it’s not in English.

    http://tantrismuskritik.blogspot.ie/2011/09/vortrag-einer-betroffenen-missbrauch.html

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  6. http://tantrismuskritik.blogspot.de/2013/04/protokoll-der-verhandlung-von-marte.html?showComment=1377508228874

    AnonymousAugust 24, 2013 at 4:05 PM

    Thank you for sharing your story. It helps to understand that was happened was not only my own fault. And it makes it even more important for myself to inform about this man who calles himself a lama.

    I have been sexually abused by Ole Nydahl myself. There was a age difference of about 40 years between us when he had sex with me and I was in very difficult circumstances, feeling unsure about myself, my future and my life in general. I feel that he totally misused my faith and longing for a more meaningful life and my openness as a student. It seemed to me that letting him have sex with me was what I had to do in order to please my teacher and in order to learn and to improve myself. I did several therapies to try to get over these experiences but the wounds are still deep and I would warn strongly everybody to get near this man who cannot control his sexual desire and misuses his own students for his pleasure. He did not care if I wanted to sleep with him or not, sometimes woke me up in the middle of the night, just to have sex and misused my sense of feeling tired, overpowered and general sense of not feeling strong about myself and my live. How this person can be considered a spiritual teacher is what I cannot understand any more. I find his behaviour extremely irresponsible, careless and dangerous. I am thankful that this blog exists and whish I would have been informed before so I would not have made these very difficult experiences.
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    TK.August 26, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    Lamas cannot control their sexual desires because tantric sutras teach them to have sex every day. To have sex with women is their obligation. They think they could be enlightened when they don’t ejaculate, obtain the sexual bliss as long as they can and don’t aware sexual bliss is sexual bliss.

    Lamas need a lot of women to practice tantric sex. Furthermore, tantric sutras teach them to use violence if women reject to have sex with them. That’s why there are sexual abuses all over the world.

    I am sorry to hear your story. But, do you know that? You are SO brave to speak out your experiences, and a lot of women will be warned and get away from Tibetan Buddhism. This is the best thing you can do! Don’t cry in darkness. Speak out the truth of Tibetan Buddhism which will lick your wounds.

    Thanks for your sharing. You are really very GREAT and BRAVE! Don’t cry! Be strong!
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    Marte-Micaela RiepeAugust 26, 2013 at 5:10 PM

    TK,

    When it is possible foe you let my comment on DI through! You know I am not Buddhist but an angel of revenge!:-))

    “It seemed to me that letting him have sex with me was what I had to do in order to please my teacher and in order to learn and to improve myself.”

    Thatshould be handled like a crime. In Germany we call it “Unzucht mit Abhängigen”. But as far as the whole lot of the ugly and disgusting lamas is not forced to keep a normative codex like teachers, psychotherapists and doctors there is no way to send them up or to withdraw teaching.

    “I did several therapies to try to get over these experiences but the wounds are still deep and I would warn strongly everybody to get near this man who cannot control his sexual desire and misuses his own students for his pleasure. He did not care if I wanted to sleep with him or not, sometimes woke me up in the middle of the night, just to have sex and misused my sense of feeling tired, overpowered and general sense of not feeling strong about myself and my live. How this person can be considered a spiritual teacher.”

    Shame on you, Ole Nydahl, shame on you! You really are a dirty old and greedy for sex bum and be sure, I would cut off your cock if I could! Shame on you! How many broken souls you have still left?

    Until today I was “protecting” you of “roumors” like such around Sogyal and others because I did not experienced and watched it when I was in DW. But this testimony shows me you are a tantric programm totally out of control and it would be better four all you would not exist.

    That´s what I really think. Again, shame on you, bastard!

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  7. Altera Sophia on what thread did you find this comment?

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  8. “Here is one recent comment on this blog which brings home to us the reality of the sordid abuse which is trivialized as consensual sex, by a generation that has lost its bearings in a sea of relativism:
    Here is the whole text:”

    Then is following a testimony from an anonymous young woman and a comment from Marte. There seems to betwo comments and two pair of shoes packed in one text , which is titeld ” Here is the whole text”

    Just to say it because it wasn’t clear for me, who concerns the story of the sexual abuse…

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  9. Chris, you did raise many good points.

    For one, regarding religion and “imprisoning,” may I share my Buddhist viewpoint with you and others?

    Buddha Sakyamuni’s main focus is about “liberation”, which means the Buddha Dharma teach sentient beings to transcend the cyclic births and deaths; when a religion offers “imprisonment,” it eveidently runs counter to the Buddha’s teachings.
    Moreover, the lamas and gurus who have practiced for over thirty years know well that the Tantric doctrine is nothing more than a system which borrows Exoteric Buddhist terms, but has the contents of the worldly non-Buddhist practice that its founders have learned from non-Buddhist schools. It is not Buddhism at all!

    Actually they also know well that they have neither realized prajna (wisdom of Chan) nor entered the bodhisattva’s dharma. But if they told the truth, they would be assailed with criticism by their Tantric peers. Therefore, none of them would disclose the truth.

    Additionally, they are reluctant to give up fame and offerings from their followers. They would rather continue to be sustained by their disciples and enjoy free sex by teaching the Tantric practice, follow the old routine and live on.

    The Tantric gurus all closely guard the contents of the Tantric practice that the Foundation has revealed as if they were some big internal secrets. They do not dare to make a public defense with their real names, nor do they dare to come in person and have private debates with the Foundation on the dharma.

    They are all well aware that the Tantric dharma with its non-Buddhist worldly contents is wrongly designated as the Buddha dharma, and is thus not qualified to publicly represent Buddhism.

    Chris, you and several others are free to speak up and walk away from the pit, but the lamas cannot! They are not able to provide Buddist teachings apart from empty words and having sex.

    Take the II Kalu Rinpoche for example, he still remains in his position, with a vain view to achieving something in the future.

    Who are actually in deep imprisonment?
    Mind you, from the perspective of Buddhism, not only for this short lifespan of several decades, but for immeasurable eons of severe retributions in Hell, because they have committed one the most severe sins of deceiving people under the guise of the Buddha Dharma.

    Have pity on them!
    The more we disclose the truth to the public to stop more ill-informed people from being deceived is one of the effective ways to save the lamas from committing even more grave sins.

    These are some of the Buddhist views on imprisoning and compassion.
    Hopefully my inadequate English writing will not ruin your reading appetite. Thank you for your time.

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  10. Chris, you are absolutely right, Tantric lamas use simply the ‘words” of the Buddha’s teachings, the same way they stole the name of “Buddhsim.” But they do not have the essence of Buddhism.

    For most outsiders, it’s indeed not easy to distinguish whether Lamaism is Buddhism or not, not to mention knowing the extent of social devastation that was brought about by this adulterous evil cult promoting promiscuous sex during the Yuan, Ming and Qing dynasties of China.

    For instance, the History of the Yuan Dynasty documented numerous accounts of how this evil cult had ruthlessly oppressed the lives of commoners and brought about the collapse of the Yuan Dynasty. The emperiors of Ching Dynasty were not any better. Lamas were the favorite advisors to those dynastic emperors, guess why?

    It is because lamas are good at sexual performance due to their cultivations of Chi-practice, inner heat, Vase-Chi Yoga, and so forth. They hope that with the Chi-Practice and the cultivation of the central channel, they can remain in the state of orgasm for a long time without ejaculating during the Couple-Practice in the Highest Yoga Tantra.
    Therefore, the Chi-Practice and the exercise of jumping in a cross-legged sitting posture are to prepare for the couple-practice of copulation. Indeed, the goal of jumping while embracing and copulating with a partner in a sitting posture is to make her achieve orgasm rapidly. This is particularly useful while having group sex with multiple partners because the lamas would then be able to make all the female followers delighted and achieve the purpose of “love for all.”

    That’s exactly what the Chinese emperors really need!
    Lamas have been well protected by political figures for centuries, how could the general public confront them?

    Perhaps I should not take up too much space here writing about Tantric practices, I hereby provide a forum link for the ones who are interested in reading more detailed info in relation to Tantric practice, or Tibetan “Buddhism.”
    http://www.forumosa.com/taiwan/viewtopic.php?f=121&t=102003&hilit=jumping&start=210

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  11. “The Dalai Lama smiled mischievously and said, “I call myself a feminist. Isn’t that what you call someone who fights for women’s rights?” The comment was made during his International Freedom Award acceptance speech, which was presented to him by the National Civil Rights Museum.”

    The dumbest people led by idiot polititicans in the U.S. still give this wolf ‘awards’. . He has made a laughing stock of the Noble Peace Award.

    However, this was in 2009, nearly five years ago, much is changing regarding how TB is viewed in this country and internationally.

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  12. Last week’s gang rape of a 22-year-old photojournalist in Mumbai comes nine months after the gang rape of a 23-year-old student aboard a bus in Delhi that led to her death. Delhi had tragically earned itself the title of India’s rape capital but Mumbai, a more liberal city, was widely regarded as safe for women. Not any more.

    The latest victim was on assignment at a textile mill and was accompanied by a male colleague. He was tied up and beaten as the woman was taken into the abandoned mill to be repeatedly raped. This happened in the Lower Parel neighbourhood – a swanky part of Mumbai.

    In the aftermath of the Delhi gang rape, a new law was passed that accords more punitive measures for sexual offences. Yet sex crimes against women continue unabated. Why? The answers lie in the prevailing mindset of Indian society, one predicated on misogyny and patriarchy that percolates every strata.”

    http://www.scmp.com/comment/insight-opinion/article/1300697/stop-rapists-root-out-misogyny-indian-society

    Tibetan “buddhism” IS Hinduism, not buddhism. Vajrayana Hinduism and the caste system is is at the root of Tibetan Lamaism, and is what ‘migrated’ to Tibet , which also incorporated the occult shamanism of Bon. It is at heart, a barbaric shamanism, incorporating patriarchal misogyny, while pretending to be ‘modern’ to fool the west.

    Now, it is pretending to be ‘feminist’ as well, its latest bold deception.

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  13. Yes, Lily never can anyone find in the teachings of Buddha the words “Lama”, or “guru”, never did Sakyamuni Buddha teach his disciples to set another individual ‘higher than another” or to sit on thrones or to incorporated sexual practices that demeaned women as simply ‘objects’ in male priestly occult rituals, that included pacifying demons and making offering to ‘deities.’ as part of the ‘religion’, The Buddha was actually trying to counteract the Hindustani caste system that he encountered in India during his lifetime, and he certainly was not teaching that others should ‘sit high on a throne’ and enthrall other human beings, using ‘karma’ as a “carrot and a stick” religious tenet, punishment for past deeds and rewards for the next life, to keep people enslaved and accepting passively their miserable poverty and existence, as their ‘karma’ as Hinduism has for centuries, so effectively that in the 21st century, India still has a caste system, and a brutally misogynistic culture for women. THAT is what, in fact, the west is really embracing by allowing Lamaism to be treated as a form of Buddhism- a future of massive poverty worldwide and a growing gap between the rich and the poor worldwide, not an improvement or a ‘contribution’ to the modern world, unless we want to catapult back to the uncivilized countries of ancient antiquity.

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  14. Chris, may I ask you two questions?

    1. Whether you would take “Lamaism” as your religious belief if it was not name-laundering into Tibetan “Buddhism” after the 70s?

    You can see how successful the Dalai Lama has been grafting Tantric Lamaism into the worldly recognized Tibetan “Buddhism.”
    (The Lecture on the Philosophy of World History, in 1822, Hegel defined Asian religions: Hinduism, Buddhism, and Lamaism; the Near East (Persian, Egyptian, and Jewish religions), and the West (Greek and Roman religions) -The Hegel Lectures Series,Series Editor: Peter C. Hodgson.

    H.H.’s religion is Lamaism, not Buddhism.

    History repeats itself.
    In the history of ancient India, the rise of the Tantric School was coupled with the downfall of true Buddhism. In fact, the expansion of Tibetan Tantric Lamaism will inevitably lead to the decadence and, eventually, the replacement and eradication of true Buddhism.

    2. When did the Buddha ever taught the terms “lamas” “gurus” and sexual transmission and empowerment?

    H.H. claims in his book:
    “…The teaching of Sakyamuni Buddha is different from the teachings of other Buddhas in that his has a union of sutra and tantra, whereas most of others do not have any tantra.” (p. 19)

    The Buddhism of Tibet and the Key to the Middle Way
    By H.H. the 14th Dalai Lama, 1975
    translated by Jeffrey Hopkins with Anne Leine

    Chris, you’re definitely right, he is a SUPER deceiver!

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  15. As one can tell, I am no longer under the ‘programmed” narrative, that they used to get us to feel sorry for them, as ‘victims’ , ‘losing their country to China.” And the sooner the west wakes up to who and what they have allowed into their halls of academia, and their towns and cities, building their ‘monasteries” like cookie cutter , mind-controlling kleptocracies, the better.

    They lost their country, because they were an insidious, cruel repressive regime They were the perpetrators of abuse, as they still are, while claiming to be the victims, as they still are, deceiving the west. . THAT is who and what Lamaism is about. That is the real narrative, the real history. That is the history you need to start researching, and do what the buddha actually taught, start questioning again.

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  16. Yes, Lily, your group is the first official buddhist group that has actually come out and expressed with documented materials, the dangers of the cult of Lamaism a.k.a. Tibetan buddhism and who these Lamas and the Dalai Lama really is, behind the many masks they are wearing now.

    There are ‘beginnings”, ‘stirrings” here in the west as well, even ordinary citizens are starting to write articles about the Dalai Lama is less that glowing light. The NYTimes is reporting about the child sexual abuse in the Bhutanese monasteries, and the abusive relationships among men and women that exist in Lamaist countries,

    I feel that it will eventually wake the west up and I am so glad that you in Taiwan have come to the same conclusions that a few of us in the west, , mostly ex-Lamaists , have come to, because we were lucky enough to ‘escape” with our critical reasoning and faculties intact. Most people can’t leave because they cannot face the shame of being so ‘duped” and the fear that the Lamas have instilled in them,( these compassionate ones), and particularly can’t face losing the ‘instant’ social groups they have built up over the years. Ironically, being able to to that, puts one at the banks of a ‘stream enterer” willing to give up these reference points that keep us imprisoned, as all ‘religions ‘ do. Tibetan buddhism is the most imprisoning,

    What is so insidious about Tibetan Lamaism is that they they will use simply the ‘words” of the Buddha teachings, like “compassion”, or ‘nonduality” or emptiness” but it is just rhetoric, empty words, when in fact, I can say without hesitation, after being around Tibetan Lamaists, and Tibetan Lamas, for decades, in many of these sanghas, which are all mind controlled slavery , (what ever they are presenting to the world, it’s a , we are so special cult, and ‘our lama cult is the most special one of all” and ‘we are so lucky to be so stupid and mind-controlled by our lama, in trances that we believe is ‘awakened mind.” even though they have us prostrating at their feet, and working like slaves for them and giving up all our money, ‘we are still so LUCKY!.. That this Lamaism makes people more self-centered, more concerned about their next lives, indifferent to the real suffering around them or the desire to actually help anyone. It makes giant egos of those that get ‘close into them” the ‘house servants” elevated about the 95% field hands, doing the physical labor for them. The rest are just becoming dumbed down and stupified into Lamaism. The academics? Well clearly even graduate schools don’t teach ‘critical thinking skills anymore’ that’s all one can sadly say , that they can be so easily duped, probably because they are being taught now by mostly dumbed down hippies that are tenured, and still haven’t recovered from the 60’s.

    The only thing Tibetan Lamas and their students actually do , is build more monasteries and centers for these Lamas, and do a lot of practices , which are Hindu based, that naturally therefore make them turn inward. That is what the Lamas are telling everyone, ‘turn inward” find peace within” blah blah blah, they themselves know nothing about compassion, since most of them have been raised by old men, in an occult, misogynistic cruel environment, that is abusive to the young boys and actually created conditions that psychologists would recognize as a psychopathic milieu, without compassion for anyone but themselves, lamaism is all about ‘them’ ‘compassion for THEM, money FOR THEM, sexuality FOR them. They are incapable of the most simple, human intimacy of love and empathy. while pretending to be models of compassion. ..

    That’s why the only thing these Lamas think to do , for example, when there is a flood in India? They they sent The Eco Karmapa , Mr. Lama Green, to that part of India and gives a ‘blessing” and takes in more ‘offerings for himself and his lineage and writes all about how wonderful these Lamas were to ‘show up’ and take advantage of another PR opportunity to make themselves look good.

    How about Mr. Green Lama , you and your fellow lamas giving a few million to those poor Indians, that were flooded recently , like western charities do, out of the billions that all you Lamas and your Mr. Smile, Dalai Lama , have hoarded after fleecing the west over the last 60 years? While promoting your corrupted , distorted, mixed up occult Tantra ‘buddhism” that throws in some concepts like ‘compassion” and ’emptiness” but that actually tells the Lamas to burns books , if anyone actually questions anything, as the Buddha always taught?

    You can fool people some of the time, but not all the time, like in Tibet, when you had to enslave them to keep them enthralled and under your feet. You monkey show is just about over.

    Here’s one of the many the lessons of buddhism you never got since you called what the Buddha taught, the ‘narrow path’ and made up your ‘third turning” wheel, Mr. Deceivers, it’s called “impermanence”, i.e. causes and conditions are coming together again, and changing, and you don’t have the Himalayas to hide your insidious culture from the rest of the world anymore. It is starting to be in plain site .

    Only scorn and ridicule are what you deserve, you should be chased to the ends of the earth, what they should have done in China in 1950, instead of giving you ‘time to come around.” Lamaism never ‘come around” they just put on another mask.

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  17. Angie’s comment’s on the the Dalai Lama got CIA funding, New York Times thread moved here.

    Yes Chris, Tibetan Lamaists/Buddhists will look extremely foolish when it is common knowledge that ejaculating or not is the prime concern when they abuse women and children, at least, this is what they will have us believe. It seems crazy that people think them higher than the rest of us because they have a silly grin on their faces. The result of this longed for ‘heaven on earth’/nirvana state through sexual abusive mind controlling techniques will shock anyone that has an ounce of humanity and long may it be discussed and brought to the attention of the public.

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  18. In my opinion so called possession phenomena are dissociations in ones mind and can be a result of spiritual/occult practise as well as a secret transference from Lama´s mind to student´s mind.

    He, the liberated or enlightened in an altered state of consciousness , is able to expand his mind into one of a talented and open minded student. Free will is never been asked only the Lama´s vision of the the student´s karma counts and his desire for her, also his, spiritual abilities and energies. At this point – reading the karma or connections in past lifes – I speak of delusion.

    The only way to protect is to leave all situations in which you are listening to a strange voice in your mind. I did several times while meditation and due to be unexperienced with such a phebomenon I did not say Good by. Fascination and devotion are traps within TB and other occult sects. Once got those phenomena you have to handle it.

    Physical phenomena like for example heat, pain, feelings of beeing touched by someone are part of an opened Kundalini or Bardo-state. Our nevous system is totally out of balance then and produces both, mental and physical phenomena, like Chritiane was explaining..

    And what I said to Angie once more for you:

    She asked:

    “Does anyone out there have advice on how to block them particularly when they interfere with the energy chakras?”

    Not really, Angie, my strategy is to take those phenomena as mine and to go through.

    The danger to think it is coming from outside is to be caught up in a so called “trap of staging yourself as victim”.

    Another strategy is to stage yourself stronger then their power, it works for me also, but it´s harder.

    There is nothing more to say here, we should put it short.

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  19. Marte- Micaela,
    how could you describe possession phenomena?
    And how can a woman or a girl recognize if a lama or guru wants to take possession of her mind in a way that makes their free will ignore?
    And are these purely mental phenomenon or also physical phenomenon?

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  20. “…And so on. As far as I can see that budddhist group of Taiwan is the first official voice within the buddhist community which points out the essence of TB. All others keep silent though they know it as well.”

    Marte-Micaela,

    You are right about the fact.

    All other prominent Buddhist groups apparently don’t know how to combat with the world class Nobel laureate, the Tantric lamas have been fooling the world all too long.

    It is only natural that one has to know the ins and outs of Tantrism and to know what true Buddhism is before he can speak out Lamaism’s true colors in public. And the Buddha dharma is too profound to be general, let alone dive deep into the history of Lamaism.
    I read many articles of the Foundation, and its publications as well.

    Marte-Micaela, I admire your courage and bravery.
    Take good care of yourself!

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  21. “… As you would expect, most were sworn to secrecy.”

    Do you know why they were sworn to secrecy?

    It is because they are just doing the birds and the bees but sugar coating it as “Buddhist practice”!

    You are one of the brave children who points out the fact of the “King’s new suit!”

    Tantric “Buddhism” essentially derives from Hindu Shaktism and is not Buddhism at all. In the Brahman culture of ancient India, sex and religion were tightly connected. Sex temples in India focused on sexual belief and energy; followers aimed at obtaining physical pleasure through sex.

    The most famous ritual is the “five kinds of enjoyment” (Panchamakara, also known as the Five Ms: meat, fish, wine, grain, and sex) which many couples attended. In addition to four kinds of food (fish, meat, wine, and grain) which satisfy the desire for good food, the fifth is to engage in multiple partners’ sex.

    The sexual practice of lamas is a deformed product of Hindu Shaktism; in essence, it is totally NOT Buddhism. Sexual teachings are in fact the fundamental tenets of Tibetan Tantric “Buddhism.” If they are banned or overturned, Tantric “Buddhism” can no longer call itself the esoteric tradition – for it will have no secrets any more.

    Apart from the voice of the True Enlightenment Education Foundation in Taiwan, in his book, “The Buddhism of Tibet or Lamaism,” Prof. Waddell indicates that the Tibetans place their faith in Lamas, the sacerdotal priests whose “cults comprise much deep-rooted devil-worship and sorcery,” and these practices are of Bon origin.

    “Lamaism,” Prof. Waddell opines, “is only thinly and imperfectly varnished over with Buddhist symbolism, beneath which the sinister growth of poly-demonist superstition darkly appears.” In his opinion, there are two primary sources for the demonic dimension lurking in Lamaism: it originates in part from the primitive paganism of Bon, and in part from Indian Tantrism.

    http://openlibrary.org/books/OL23283234M/The_Buddhism_of_Tibet_or_Lamaism
    Prof. L. Waddell, 1895 W.H. Allen & Co. in London, p. 29-30

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  22. KateS on August 29.2013 at 2.47 pm said:

    “Christiane, Lee Sanella said that the open kundalini was usually good.
    Why was it not goog for you?”

    As far as I remember Sannella describes mainly the stress he observed at his patients, when kundalini was very activ. So it is the question how the body and the mind are able to handle these conditions. It is not said, when the energy has cooled down, you are in a wonderfull new state of mind. There were patients they went back to their old condition and others developed creativ abilities or changed their life totally. There wasn’t no special result of “Kundalini rising”.

    I think the most important Sannella said is that the symptoms of this energy have nothing to do with mental illness, with illusion or with delusion.

    Exactly this is one of the great problems. You have terrible phenomena but you are very clear in your thoughts, you KNOW there is something going wrong, very wrong and at the same time you are shocked, paralysed and afraid of what is happeneing to you. And I don’t know any woman who don’t know the perpetrator.

    You are lying in bed and you are feeling your legs getting bigger and bigger as wide as the whole bed.
    You are slowly awaking and you feel frozen, you can’t move any millimeter as bandaged the whole body and you can’t breathe. When you are woken up it is all over and you are simply glad to be alive. You are lying in bed and feeling only one side of your body. There is no other side.
    And there are much more phenomena, all women who experienced can tell about. These all are phenomena of a highly stressed nervous system. Today we know people after torture or sensitive deprivation have these phenomena.

    There is a great difference between Sannellas patients and the victims of TB or other occult cults.
    The opening of the patients happened by themselves or by an accident.
    The opening of the victims is forced and induced by the perpetrators.

    In India this opening of Kundalini Energy is called “Shaktipat”, the master gives it to his student. My oppinion is, but that is my very personal oppinion, that “Shaktipat” ist a post hypnotic order to open the enrgy system of a human being. Until now I have never read about “Shaktipat” how it functioned.

    And there is another fact we have to see. In combination they make use of hypnosis and suggestions and that in a forbidden unethical way. The old french hypnotist like Charcot, Binet and Féré worked with these techniques. Today the human rights make it unable to research hypnosis with these methods. But TB is so unsrupulous to treat women with these very very old manipulations of body and mind. If one reads serious literature of alchimie there is always to find that hypnosis and suggestions sides by meditation are a very important part of the rituals.
    That’s why we have to understand TB and other occult cults from their roots.

    So, may be one finds a good way to live with Kundalini. But we have to know that it is a very difficult way. When it goes wrong it can cost the whole social life, the job, the family and so on. When it goes right it lasts years of phenomenia, perhaps to the end of life, taking distance from the perpetrators again and again, knowing they hurt, regardless of the life of their victims. It is a hard work to live with the question why someone treated you in such a dreadful way and changed your life totally.

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  23. Lily, what I have found on the site you brought in:

    Throughout our entire history, sacred sexuality was the most protected and difficult to acquire knowledge. Those who received it had to prove themselves worthy through their ethics and their capacity for sacrificing for others. Thus, those who received this knowledge, and in turn carried forward to the next generations, were the greatest artists, philosophers, musicians, scientists, religious leaders, and more, both men and women, and from every culture and civilization in the world. These are but a few of those who knew and practised sexual transmutation. As you would expect, most were sworn to secrecy.”

    Do you share that view? Are you gnostic? Then you do.
    I don´t. And I am going to opon all the secrets I experienced and reflected within TB.

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  24. Thank you for the links, lily.

    I´d like to bring another one in:

    http://www.enlighten.org.tw/trueheart_en/27

    A buddhist group in Taiwan has highlighted sexual abuse within the TB community as an essence of tantric-tibetan Lamaism.

    Some quotes:

    “Radio Free Asia (U.S.-funded) had conducted an interview with Chairman Zhang (was then the CEO) of the True Enlightenment Education Foundation, together with Teacher Yu Zhengwai, and Dawa Tsering, Director of the Tibet Religious Foundation of H.H. the Dalai Lama on Dec. 7, 2011.

    Chairman Zhang of the Foundation points out, the Foundation would not comment on the sexual assault cases in other religions because they are purely isolated cases and are not related to the evil religious doctrines.

    Given that Tibetan “Buddhism” is counterfeit “Buddhism,” the sexual abuses on female disciples by lamas are not isolated cases; it is because the tenets of Tibetan “Buddhism” require its disciples to have sexual intercourse with many female adherents to attain Buddhahood in a lifetime. Such statements are well documented in the ancient Tantras of Tibetan “Buddhism” through generations over a millennium, and are still being propagated today.

    Dawa Tsering pointed out: “Tibetan Buddhism is also called Esoteric School because of the ‘secret meaning’ stated in the sutras, which can only be explained by the gurus. There is no way to understand its true meaning simply based on literal interpretation.”

    Chairman Zhang replies to this particular point: Since Dawa Tsering remarked that those who do not have the knowledge of the Tibetan language and have never practiced Tibetan Tantra are not qualified to comment on Tibetan “Buddhism,” we will quote the Dalai Lama’s statements published in his books to explain what the esoteric meanings in Tibetan Tantrism truly are.

    In his book The World of Tibetan Buddhism, the Dalai Lama states the following:

    As explained in the Vajra-Tent Tantra, there are four classes within the tantric system. However, it is only in Highest Yoga Tantra that the profound and unique features of tantra find their fullest expression. Consequently, we should view the lower tantras as steps leading towards Highest Yoga Tantra. Although the presence of various methods of taking desire into the path is a feature common to all four classes of tantra, the level of desire employed differs considerably from one class of tantra to another. In the first class of tantra, one takes into the path the desire generated from merely gazing at an attractive person of the opposite sex. Then, the three remaining classes, respectively, employ the desire generated from smiling at and laughing with such a person, the desire involved in touching and holding hands, and finally, the desire involved in sexual union.(H.H. the Dalai Lama, The World of Tibetan Buddhism, p. 103)

    As stated by the Dalai Lama, the practice of Tibetan “Tantrism,” from the preliminary to the final stages, consists of totally four classes of tantra, the Action Tantra, the Performance Tantra, the Yoga Tantra, and the Highest Yoga Tantra, all of which focus on sexual matters; to start with smiling, gazing, hugging, and eventually sexual union, these are the core methods of Tibetan tantric practice, the fourth and last class, called the “sexual union tantra,” “Mahayoga,” and so on, is the key point and the ultimate method of esoteric cultivation, namely the Highest Yoga Tantra.

    Dawa Tsering also highlighted, “The points raised by the True Enlightenment Education Foundation are only records in the sutras, yet hardly any practitioner has achieved this level throughout our history. Most importantly, the sutras also clearly stipulate that the monks who have received the precepts are absolutely forbidden to practice in that way because it violates the precept.”

    Chairman Zhang indicates: Again, his statement contradicts the historical fact and the current reality. Most ancient gurus of Tibetan “Buddhism” are actual practitioners of the Couple-Practice Tantra. In the case of no female consorts available, even masturbation (mudra dharma) is carried out for a sole practice practitioner. For instance, Milarepa practiced masturbation over ten years in a cave to cultivate the Dual Operation of Bliss and Emptiness since no female consort was available for his copulation practice. Therefore, he is deemed, in Tibetan “Buddhism,” as someone who cultivated ascetic practice. As for the Sixth Dalai Lama, one of his poems is quoted in a Chinese book A Talk on the Tibetan Culture (edited by Yelü Dashi) , and it says:
    While I live in the monastery palace,
    I am Ridzin Tsangyang Gyatso, honored in this lineage.
    When I roam the streets in Lhasa, and down in the valley to Shol,
    I am the wildman, Dangyang Wangpo, who has many lovers.
    Never have I slept without a sweetheart
    Nor have I spent a single drop of sperm

    Nevertheless, whatever state they have described regarding “no emission of semen” is definitely not the Buddhist cultivation and has nothing to do with the attainment of liberation or enlightenment of the Three-Vehicle Bodhi. Just think, if Buddha Sakyamuni would have practiced the same way as mentioned above, could he still be worshiped as the Buddha?”

    And so on. As far as I can see that budddhist group of Taiwan is the first official voice within the buddhist community which points out the essence of TB. All others keep silent though they know it as well.

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  25. I am trying to post a comment to connect this discussion to the DL.
    “Adding to H.H.’s charisma, apart from politics, fame, power and money, perhaps his teachings are the most fascinating issue.

    For your reference:
    http://sacred-sex.org/scriptures/buddhism/2-14th-dalai-lama-and-sex.html

    Dalai Lama: Teachings about Sex

    http://sacred-sex.org/scriptures/buddhism/43-dalai-lama-sex-and-kalachakra.html

    Dalai Lama: Sex and Kalachakra
    Advice for Keeping the Vows and Beginning Kalachakra Practice
    The Vow Not to Lose Seminal Energy-Drops

    So, it is no surprise that lamas all over the world are committing sexual misconducts.”

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  26. To Marte-Micaela
    I understand totally what you are saying. I was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress, the only diagnosis applied to the condition I was in. My short-term memory was so bad I would instantly forget what someone said to me; no thought process to make sense of it. Having no known research available to me it took a number of years to make sense of what happened to me. I agree with you; the condition was deliberately brought about by exposure to repeated stress induced states. The perpetrators would rather have people think it ‘divine madness’ rather than victims of their gross psychopathic behaviour.

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  27. Just an addition:

    What is pictured above was the reason to charge Nydahl for myhem. It was very interesting in which way the prosecution handled it and what at least was the result. I am going to write more about ithe case.

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  28. You are busy now on DL´s CIA affair. but let me bring in a commentary I wrote to a lecture I was given, especially for Chris and Angie, Christiane and Althera Sophia may just know it:

    Preliminary comment:

    I wrote this lecture in 2008 under extremly bad conditions at the time, for example I did not recall me as the person I had been, a major damage, if not a total one of my short-term memory had entered, an experience of what many people have, who where most exposed to repeated traumatic stress. The ability to abstract thinking was severely restricted, most of what I wanted to say had to be written off the “Quellen” (sources) in order to be able to make sense of what I wanted to communicate.

    The objective of the female sacrify was exactly that: to become a depersonalizsed zombie as a pure receptabel of the transferences I should represent, in my specific case the transferences of the Vajrayogini, due to this my Bodhisattva-name was “Highest Wisdom”. During an inauguration of the new opened buddhistic center in Berlin Ole Nydahl named me or better the empty shell I was “Dorje Phagmo” too, the Tibetan name of the Varayogini.

    Today I know the state I was pushed in is the Bardo-state – its phenomena have not gone away until yet- which means one of the secret transferences of Naropa, I quote from Wikipedia:

    “The praxis of the six Yogas implies, caused by its extremly powerful and energetic emanations, thus its specific development of effects and especially its far-reaching consequences, a very high degree of meditative ability and spiritual knowledge.

    (I did not have that at all. I liked to meditate but was much too lazy for the Nöndro-practise and all the other excercises like mantra-counting and so on. Why should someone tantalise herselves that much?)

    The experiment to perform wholly or partly the six Yogas of Naropa, without any suitable basics as well as instructions and support may be possible but hence there can emerge fatal complications as an irreversible damage of ones physical and psychic systems.”

    Leaving aside that I am not a devotee of any secret teachings at all, it was irresponsible, inhumane and criminal for Ole Nydahl and the so called Karmapa Trinley Thaye Dorje to involve me into such a transference, without my consent.

    As I said in other places: They abuse people, above all the women, as material for their own so called way of enlightenment.

    Hit the road, Nydahl, you never come back!

    The lecture was just the beginning of researches about my experiences and the state of my mind as result.

    Yes, Angie, we have to aquire knowledge furthermore to help us and others to understand the situation.

    I am going to post some more literature here.

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  29. To Chris

    I find your advice very helpful. The programmes/belief systems can go very deep, however, I struggled through until I managed to lose the ‘high’ position Quinn and others held in my thinking mind. I think what saved me is that I was very uncomfortable with their intentions to prolong interference in my life even when they knew I wanted nothing to do with them. I had not understood how difficult severing the ties was going to be, however, I would not have it any other way. There is a lot of evidence to back up your comments so I say, keep up the good work!

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  30. To Marte-Micaela and Christiane

    Thank you. I am so glad I have asked questions. Your advice will help many women. It would be excellent to have a thread: “An opened Kundalini causes serious problems as a result of secret techniques within Lamaism and Occultism in general.”

    I would like someone who is scientifically minded will do research very soon and help men and women to take back control of their lives.

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  31. What means Tantra?

    Tantra ritual in Lamaism means sexualmagic practice to achieve worldly or spiritual androzentric power.
    And the women are just something like objects of ritual on the one
    hand , but on the other hand they are dangerous beings who have to be conquered and destroyed as autonom female beings.

    http://buddhismandcriticism.blogspot.co.at/2013/08/tantric-buddhist-apologetics.html

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  32. Thanks Marte!

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  33. Thank you , but I know this work, I sended the link to Yan.

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  34. After all Althera Sophias question, “But they behave like outlaws. And this is really astonishing, isn’t it!?” is answered here:

    TaNTRIC BUDDHIST ApOLOGETICS

    OR

    ATINOMIANISM AS A NORM

    Isabelle Onians, March 8,2003, Harvard

    http://de.scribd.com/doc/38639979/Tantric-Buddhist-Apologetics

    Chris, you may think it helpful for your project!

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  35. To Angie:

    ” I believed the colours were emanating from an area in my forehead and a result of meditation.”

    Yes, there were the result of meditation. For talented people there are these results. I don´t think, Quinn is deliberately using the same methods like tibetan Lamas.

    “If I had continued this practice would I still be connected to the Irish ‘guru’ Tony Quinn on some level?”

    Yes, when talented people like you are in the near of a person like Quinn while meditation, they are opened to absorb something what is called a “psychic parasit”. It works for it self after getting in our system, any action from outside is needed. We can learn to handle it at least.

    We should not to go too far off the topic!

    Should be worth to be an own thread: An opened Kundalini causes serious problems as a result of secret tecniques within Lamaism and Occultism in general.

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  36. Chistiane, Lee Sanella said that the open kundalini was usually good.

    Why was it not good for you?

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  37. Angie

    What you are saying is absolutely right. When I write of theoretical clearing I mean that what happens in a part here on DI. I’m in the glad situation to know what happened to me and that because there were other women explaining these terrible procedures, explaining this second form of abuse, a very lot of poeple don’t want to see. Of course these women “will play a big role” and they play the first role because they are the only ones who know what’s really going on in TB and other tantric cults.

    As you, I never had sexual contact to this man who abused me in form of opening Kundalini Energy and setting programms with a hypnosing rapport about several months. He meditated on Shiva and so I think he was a so called “Shivaist”, a special form of Tantric Hinduism, so Mr. Trimondi told me. In the first year I had no idea what happened to me, I only knew he was the reason of my terrible physical and psychical condition. I researched but nothing was to find. The medical professionals I consulted signaled that they didn’t believe. I got NO help. In the internet again and again I found some criticism of TB and the book of the couple Trimondi. I had a mailing with Mr. Trimondi and so I got in touch with other women.
    I tell this because I know how important it is to get good and real information and the support of other victims and poeple who BELIEVE what we have to say. I agree with you, it is abusing again when therapists, the helping profession, is unable to support. The difficulty for these professions is to say YES it is possible, that someone von outside can go in contact with your energy system and further with your nervous system. It is feared it will last still a longer time until science has completely understand the abuse of TB. And so, let us tell about it.
    By the way, Dr. Lee Sannella, an american psychiatrist, was the first doctor in the west searching for Kundalini Energy. In his book “Kundalini: Psychosis or Transcendence?” he describes his observations. But this was in the seventies of the last century and nothing more followed.

    “This does not solve the problem if I come into contact with someone who, as part of their agenda, interferes with chakra energy”

    That is our problem. The opened Kundalini Energy makes open our energy sytem, especially when we are in contact with poeple who know using and manipulating energy. That is a fact.

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  38. Marte-Micaela

    I hope you don’t mind that I have used a spelling check to make your comment clearer.

    “Angie, just one question: Did you ever mediate on a Guru like I did on the 16thenth Karmapa? I nearly forgot all, but I remember we should imagine the different colours of light coming out of his different chakras and let them into our body. That is the basis of transferring energies when your energy-body is open like in a deep meditation and much more while an opening Kundalini.”

    This question is interesting. I attended seminars led by Tony Quinn and I was never told to focus on colours coming from his body. I was not aware that the guru’s colours of light were what I saw. I find it naturally easy to meditate/go into an altered state of mind. I believed the colours were emanating from an area in my forehead and a result of meditation. If I had continued this practice would I still be connected to the Irish ‘guru’ Tony Quinn on some level?

    I did not have sex with him as I refused, however, I am aware that he interferes with sexual relationships and in this way he attaches himself. This would point to his use of occult practices. I would say that many women in his cult were conditioned to react to him sexually and when it was not him, to someone else when it suited his purposes. He meddled in relationships to such a degree that they had to have his permission to have a relationship and with whom. I had the sense not to ‘connect’ to them when I knew in my mind I was not interest in them as I had seen them behave like zombies, however, there is a more subtle way to connect and this I found disturbing and I wonder if I was as safe as I thought I was at that time. When I refused to take it further they caused a lot of mental physical and spiritual pain in my life. It felt like something was being forced on me and it was worse at night time. I was very frightened by what happened. What they do is extremely dangerous. I gained control over the fear and am in a better state of mind.

    Christiane

    “One could describe it with the words that the nervous system is exploding. So women need a good theoretical clearing up what happened to them and a special company to learn to handle the phenomenon”

    Two women ‘therapist’ who worked for him, using deep hypnosis/meditation, were instrumental in prolonging and worsening the condition. It is quite a shock to the system and I believe the ‘emptying out’ can cause terrible depression. When a person does not understand what is going on it does not surprise me they react with fear. I have stayed away from Quinn and everyone connected to him, past and present. This does not solve the problem if I come into contact with someone who, as part of their agenda, interferes with chakra energy.

    “So women need a good theoretical clearing up what happened to them and a special company to learn to handle the phenomenon………..but that is music of the future.”

    It is abusive on a large scale and very confusing for me when medical professionals could not say what was wrong with me and treated me unsuccessfully. It should be part of their training to study the phenomena and report the effects. I sincerely hope it “is music of the future” and that women who have been subjected to it will play a big role in explaining and helping others to handle the phenomena.

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  39. “Does anyone out there have advice on how to block them particularly when they interfere with the energy chakras?”

    Angie, just one question: Did you ever mediated on a Guru like I did on th 16thenth Karmapa? I nearly forgot all, but I remember we should imagine the different colours of lifgt coming out of his diffrent chacras and let them into our body.

    That is the basis of transfering energies when your energy-body is open like in a deep meditation and much more while an opening Kundalini.

    .All Guru- meditaions are training-enaugurations for secret transferences from Guru´s mind and energy body into students mind and energy body. It works on the fact that “enlightened” people have a low frequency radiation of 40 mgH, researched in their brain scans. Any other people have that radiation.

    There is a lot of researching about, but I put it short and finish here.

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  40. That’s the point, what Micaela has written. And that’s the second level of abuse, the abuse of feelings and thoughts. This abuse concretley happens with the nervous system. That’s why Angie writes of “interfere with the energy Chakras”. There are knots of nerves which extremly are touched in a Kundalini Process and which produce different phenomenons.

    That’s no go for a walk – I say that because Kundalini Yoga is in in western Yoga schools – that’s a martyrdom, especially in the first time when you do not know what has happened. One could describe it with the words that the nervous system ist exploding. So women need a good theoretical clearing up what happened to them and a special company to learn to handle the phenomenons………..but that is music of the furure.

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  41. “That’s how you block them, by using your critical intelligence again.”

    Chris, we are speaking about our phenomena. That is something totally different than you are going for. We have to handle them for the rest of your lifes if we just went into or, better, have been thrown into the process of an opened Kundalini or in the Bardo-state how Lamas say. It seemed that was not happen to you, be lucky about. But here is asked for our expertise, Angies, Christianes and mine. Using critical ntelligence is self-evident., balancing Kundalini phenomena is another story by far.

    You read it: Message understood.
    .

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  42. You block them by remembering that they depend on fear, on scaring their devotees into believing that they are going to HELL, if they dare to use their own perceptions, trust their own perceptions, and therefore are sane human beings and living fully in the world as adults..

    Keeping you in ‘fear’ is keeping you as a dysfunctional child, NOT an adult and certainly not ‘enlightened” that is the Lama’s modus operandi Fear, with false promises woven in.. . No compassionate spiritual path or teacher would do that Fundamentalists use fear. , No so- called enlightened community would threaten people with lawsuits if they start to use their own critical intelligence again.

    YOU THINK ABOUT HOW INSANE AND TYRANNICAL THAT IS.

    Fear is how they kept their whole country, Tibet, in poverty and misery and at a bare subsistence level for CENTURIES and fear is what they are using to stay on those thrones They have no ‘concept’ of equality, not human equality, gender equality , they literally see themselves as ‘incarnate gods , avatars that have come back to save us. and they are still , after 70 years in the 20-21st century, and living in the middle ages. Their minds are stuck in the middle ages. You remember that, and that’s how you block them.

    They have learned absolutely nothing from losing their own country, nothing, which in my view makes them not only NOT enlightened , but some of the stupidest people on the face of the earth. Who are great danger to democracy. You have to remember that. .They simply want to stay on those thrones., thrones they LOST because of how cruel and indifferent they were to their own people, for centuries as they lived in luxury , and off the backs, literally of their own people, creating a ‘debt slave system’ while their own people remained on a subsistence level, without schools , without hospitals, without any choices, living to the ripe old age of 35. Not even able to use the ‘wheel’ to make their back breaking labor easier, except as a “prayer wheel” Do you know why they twirled it all the time? They lived in fear of the phenomenal world around them, and on top of that they were afraid of demons and curses at every corner, THAT is what the Lamas taught them, to be even more afraid. It was fear they taught to those little Tibetan boys, who had been literally torn from their families , sometimes even demanded as a tax to these lamas, and you remember about the rampant sexual abuse in the monasteries, and the damage that that does to children who then become male adults who become then the perpetrators of abuse.

    You take back your critical intelligence. You start honoring your own culture, and it’s lineage, it took the west centuries to throw off tyrants that used religion to keep us as serfs and slaves, because these tyrants, so attractive to totalitarian regimes, want to destroy democracy and western values. Look how they react when people start expressing ‘freedom of speech’ or using their ‘critical reasoning again” what a real democracy depends on! That is another BIG RED FLAG.

    And your remember that these Lamas are only pretending to being superior because of their deep inferiority complexes, having come out of the middle ages into the 21st century , and really unable to find their way across the street without a cadre of servants and mind slaves and being the narcissists they are, with giant egos, their first line of mind control was to make westerners hate themselves and their own culture , while presenting the colossal lie that Tibet was a Shangri-lai. You block them by remembering who they really are, at all times. And never let their mind-controlling ,subliminal ‘programs” into your stream of consciousness again. Y

    . These are experts in FEAR not Enlightenment. Experts in confusion and double speak and double talk and you always remember that they are cowards, and tyrants, that had to flee their own country, remembering to take their tons of gold with them, not because of the Chinese (they stayed a full 9 years after Mao cam) that’s what you remember and that’s how you block them, , and you don’t forget it, because, if you are only half way out, you need to trust your own sanity now, its more important than ever, and your own perceptions from now on. You have been programmed , purposely, with twisted “dharma , woven with fear by a misogynistic, priestly caste system, whose only goal is to make slaves of everyone else, They succeeded in Tibet for over a thousand years, and they ‘miss it’ that absolute tyranny, that used fear, fear in life, and fear of death. That’s how you block them, by using your critical intelligence again.

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  43. Message understood.

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  44. “Does anyone out there have advice on how to block them particularly when they interfere with the energy chakras?”

    Not really, Angie, my strategy is to take those phenomena as mine and to go through. The danger to think it is coming from outside is to be caught up in a so called “trap of staging yourself as victim”.

    Another strategy is to stage yourself stronger then their power, it works for me also, but it´s harder.

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  45. If Tony Quinn’s sorcery is anything to go by, the west has been fooled by the sorcery of Lamaism/Dalai Lama who comes in sheep’s clothing. Were we not warned about this? Is this the ‘forbidden fruit’ of knowledge? We cannot trust anything they say. They speak with forked tongues. They pat themselves on the back and think they fool us by talking ‘peace’ to western governments and, snake like; they attempt to creep into the mind of unsuspecting people. Since they hold themselves up as divine beings I suppose they could argue they have divine right, however, doing what they do, in my mind, are actions of the scum of the earth. There is a huge amount of evidence now to support this and we must counteract it. Does anyone out there have advice on how to block them particularly when they interfere with the energy chakras?

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  46. Pema,

    Business as usual: Insanity is the diagnosis made by Lamaists of those that question them. They are not going to face the insanity that is their own belief system.

    We have three statements here:

    One of TK, runner of the blog “Tantrismuskritik”. She is an authentic Buddhist from Taiwan and fights against the falsification of Buddhist teachings by Lamaists. Insanity?

    Another one comes from a victim of abusive behavior by a lama.. She tells her story truthfully and touchingly. She had suffered a lot. Insanity?

    The comment to her testimony is wild and furious, indeed. But that is the advantage of being non-Buddhist: To be an angel of revenge.:-))
    Insanity?

    Do you think the world is waiting for to be valued in that manner? Think about it.

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  47. But they behave like outlaws. And this is really astonishing, isn’t it!?

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  48. I suppose that the status of this Lamas in the western society isn’t clear.
    Are they saints, are they fools or are they authority figures in relation to ethical issues? In any way they are standing not “out of the society” they are standing “above the society” they act as if they are some kind of magical spiritual authority and that they are not subject to ordinary rules like anyone else.This is an ethos they have managed to obtain, an ethos we really don’t need .

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  49. Anonymous:

    Tony Quinn has abused many women in the same manner. Thank you for your post. Readers and commenters are gaining true enlightenment from reading the truth on Dialogue Ireland.

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  50. All knowing one have you got that book written yet from my memory you mentioned it at Eileen’s Inform Conference in 1997? How long is a bit of string? You can’t write it as you are still in Lamaism is that not the problem?

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  51. Pema? What Lama gave you your name?

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  52. The level of insanity manifest here breaks records set in previous strands on DI.

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