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“Quinn’s Philosophy”

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Let’s keep it Accurate

BY ANU

There is often a major difference between what a person states and what he really believes and therefore practices. Quinn does use the words “energy”, “force”, “life” (with or without the capitals) it seems interchangeably and it is not clear from many points of view what exactly he is referring to other than a general sense of a “spiritual” force. In spirit and emotion, it doesn’t seem to be very similar to “The Father” that Jesus taught, submitted to and eventually died in obedience to. Unlike Quinn, it doesn’t sound like Jesus was “programming” the “Life Force” or God for material “success”. Many have reported that references to genuine spiritual matters were given a minor place in the modern Educo seminars and it seems even less of a place as the years have gone by. Linking his philosophy to teaching of Jesus may be little more than a marketing tool or partially believed but actions speak louder than words in all cases. Getting himself tied up in knots in his feeble word play and leaving others to try and explain his teachings and actions is what Quinn has done for almost 40 years.

You commented:
My understanding from doing a seminar and going to Sunday meetings (a lot of which Quinn attended.) was rather different. He explicitly talked a lot about “Life” which was he way of referring to God.

Was your experience really different and in what way or degree? Nobody disputes that Quinn “talks” about Life so this is not an issue here. Quinn noticeably doesn’t often use the word God but chooses the word Life (potentially more vague and flexible depending on its usage) much more often. Quinn’s understanding of Life or God is seen by many spiritually-minded people to not be very close to the views of major religions or spiritual traditions on key points. Quinn’s version of God is EXACTLY the issue here. The article by Sam reflects Quinn’s focus on directing the “energy” or “life” to fulfil the will of the ego exactly as you say. How is this, in itself, compatible with the concept of God directing one’s life, other than very superficially, if at all? In the strict sense it’s not possible to be guided by Life while at the same time “getting Life to carry out the will of the ego” which is a core part of Quinn’s philosophy. Some have said it’s THE core of his philosophy and the rest is minimal or non-existent, especially in practice.

You can’t have it both ways which is the crux of the matter and which is neatly raised in Sam’s article. Playing with or getting confused by the inherent flexibility of words does not address the issues. Although a spiritually-minded person could accept the idea of constant progress/ evolution/ improvement of the ego towards being directed by the spirit, the concept of the ego “getting Life to carry out the will of the ego” through “programming” or other means seems inconsistent and misleading at best and at worst a downright ‘suit / direct yourself’ philosophy. This point was raised in Sam’s article that the idea of a genuine submission to a Supreme Being was only lip service or minimal in reality in Quinn’s philosophy.

Whilst he would talk about “programming” which is getting Life to carry out the will of the ego; he was very clear that the ultimate way of living was to be open to Life and to get its guidance. “Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and everything else will be given you,” was a quotation he’d use to illustrate this point.

If Quinn truly believes that “the ultimate way of living was to be “open” to Life and to get its guidance” why emphasise so much, as indeed he does, all of the directing the energy for “success”. It sounds quite hypocritical then to quote “Seek ye first the Kingdom of God and everything else will be given you,” if the ego is already such a driving force in Quinn’s phiolsophy and becoming all the more so through “programming” and directing the “energy”. It’s for such confusions, inconsistencies and, arguably, downright misleading errors in interpreting spiritual philosophies, that many spiritually-minded people and many religious experts have rejected Quinn’s system over the last 40 years. It may also explain the lack of results experienced by many followers over the years and the unspiritual behaviour of Quinn and some of his close associates. Doubtless there are well-intentioned and benevolent people who are sucked into Quinn’s world but many of these see the inconsistencies and leave.

Furthermore his work involved clearing the programming of the ego in order to allow Life to be free to express itself and the individual “clear” enough to be aware of its guidance.

Who is directing the “clearing” of the programming of the ego is the next problem and exactly how is this being achieved?. Is it by more “programming”?. Is it the ego of the individual or as many report Quinn directing the egos of others to “clear” / programme / deprogramme their egos so that “Life” can be free to express itself?. How exactly and in what way is the individual “clear” enough to be aware of its (Life) guidance as a result of this programming/ clearing? None of this is “clear” in itself but then neither is Quinn’s overall rambling philosophy which, by the way, he never discusses in a public debate but leaves it to others to “explain” what he doesn’t “explain” himself. You speak of “let’s keep it accurate”, and in so doing it is incumbent on you to clearly define any real inaccuracies in meaning and to clarify the position adequately.


This meant that the person concerned was then able to follow their spiritual path rather than that of their ego.

With the best will in the world it’s hard to see how we have really left the ego behind as a result of what’s gone before. Simply saying that Quinn says that “clearing” (is this by more “programming”) the programming of the ego which then is supposed to get rid of the ego sufficiently to allow “clearing” of the individual and guidance by Life doesn’t enlighten us very much. The great lack of clarity in Quinn’s system regarding the nature of the ‘ego’, ‘Life’ and the nature of the spiritual path and the gulf between what is implied by the use of such terms and the behaviours of Quinn and his culture of “get rich (quick) by using the Life-Force” are key points raised in Sam’s post. You don’t deal with these substantive issues while claiming “let’s keep it accurate” .

Metaphysical platitudes or sub-spiritual “slush” and Quinn’s vague, inconsistent, half-baked, second-hand (claimed as original) ideas don’t come close to describing a spiritual journey of the “straight and narrow path” as Jesus and other spiritual teachers have described. There are many worthwhile descriptions of the requirements of the spiritual life in many spiritual traditions but I feel Quinn’s description doesn’t come remotely close to any of these. The main religions and spiritual philosophies propose a meaningful system of meditative practice, prayer, repentance and other spiritual practices aimed at transcending and mastering the ego and describe in depth concepts such as Divine Grace which as Sam’s article summarises have been omitted from Quinn’s “religion” and largely replaced by a fantasy world of Atlantean armies reincarnated under the direction of Quinn, the self-proclaimed reincarnation of Jesus Christ. The onus is on Quinn to emerge from the shadows and clarify his philosophy rather than have others attempt it for him. Let the “master” defend his own philosophy first and foremost. So far he has resolutely refused to do this.

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  1. The truth is, Quinn and his ‘top brass’ steal other peoples’ ideas ergo he has no philosophy that is original or his. They worked together ferreting out anyone who comes up with something different and pretend that he was the source in his quest to be the first to have the AMAZING breakthrough. Having been around them for quite some time the meaning of Matthew 7:6 in Jesus’s Sermon on the Mount: “Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces” becomes very clear.

    He jumped on the ‘spiritual’ bandwagon, however, the spirit said NO. A manipulator of energy he feeds off of other people’s energy, his brainwashed followers turn up for the ‘top up’. IT will always evade him. He cannot connect people to something he is disconnected from and he knows it.

    ANU: “With the best will in the world it’s hard to see how we have really left the ego behind as a result of what’s gone before. Simply saying that Quinn says that “clearing” (is this by more “programming”) the programming of the ego which then is supposed to get rid of the ego sufficiently to allow “clearing” of the individual and guidance by Life doesn’t enlighten us very much. The great lack of clarity in Quinn’s system regarding the nature of the ‘ego’, ‘Life’ and the nature of the spiritual path and the gulf between what is implied by the use of such terms and the behaviours of Quinn and his culture of “get rich (quick) by using the Life-Force”

    This above is so true. Unfortunately, for him his self-induced programme led him to steal soul energy and leaving a person bereft is a spiritual crime that does not go unpunished. He is a cruel ‘guru’ that trains people to destroy others in order to gain for themselves; this is his shadow side and imposed on anyone who gets close to him. He is a stealer and not a healer of souls. He is the thief that Jesus does not forgive, the type of magician who is empty of God’s grace.

    He can nod all he wants it won’t get him anywhere. The ‘oracle’ of God evades him!

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  2. Mr Quinn uses a lot of cliched words such as “ego” “life” “spirit” “flow” “realisation” oh and of course more recently “euthopia” . Not only that but once the punters demonstrate in any way that they have reached the new goal that he has set – he then ups it. When people started to “relax mentally” he instructed them to “feel the energy”. He then raised the bar by saying that they needed to be able to “flow the energy”. When that one was achieved it was about “healing” then it changed to being able to “feel your connection”. Then he wowed everyone with his unique capacity to “connect you with your spirit”. This, he said, would guide you throughout your life. It was the pinnacle of your own spiritual journey to go on his connection seminars and be “connected to your spirit”. It was all about checking with this connection for yes or no responses before taking any important action or making any important decisions in your life. The connection demonstrated itself to the individuals in many different ways. Could be a flurry in their tummy, an itchy head or an all out spasm that was the indication of the new “connected” person’s means of getting the nod from their spirit.

    But that ended up not being enough. Mr Quinn gave a big talk last year on how he couldn’t understand why, when people followed that connection, they didn’t find themselves in “the flow of life permanently”. They should find themselves in “euthopia” if they follow these nods from their spirit. He said that all should be able to sing the song of life as a result of following their connection so guess what – yes you got it – another seminar!!! This one would be called the Song of Life and it was open only to those that have done the connection. There was a lot of talk about this but nothing happened until early this year when the proverbial shit hit the fan and he needed some positive propaganda. THEN he announces that he wants to give back by offering a “free seminar” called “song of life”. Mind you, the punters had to pay for the flights and accomodation themselves which was around 3 grand. I suppose not bad when you just paid almost 90 grand for the privilege.

    His followers wonder why the priests, and philosophers and academics and politicians don’t go on his seminars – maybe it’s because they haven’t heard his great teachings. Wonder why they don’t all attend the seminars – sure don’t we all want to save the world. Indeed you are right – maybe the master needs to come out and do what he is destined to do – lead us to freedom. Can’t wait.

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