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Boylesports in row over ‘cult’ training course by Aine Coffey ~ Sunday Times June 24, 2012
Posted on June 24, 2012 by dialogueireland
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The timing of John Boyle and his academy is interesting. (Removed)
John Boyle is all over Quinn as a testimony and has openly supported him for many years, through educogym in Naas and Dundalk.
Georgina Dolan has complete influence with Boyle she has been involved in his property deals in Cyprus, has brought people from Cyprus to attend seminars and Boyle always blowing her praises.
The temperature might be getting hot for Boyle and his associations with Quinn
Boyle’s Law:
As the temperature heats up in the Quinn zone
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in the Dundalk area. Inversion occurs where one denies ones Mucky Messiah three times before the cock crows. Bets are off and the random nature of dos attacks leads the Boylesports to cease trading while the Hicky genius in Malahide calls in security from Yvonne Sherry’s county to start the taxi meter spinning with excess luggage. Evidence is concocted like blarney but because TQ has never never kissed the Blarney Stone his evidence sinks without a trace. Meanwhile the Barrister Williams who advised on the attack on Dialogue Ireland with the assistance of Scientology came up with their usual plan, Never Defend and always attack. No this Messiah is both God and man. But also as cowardly as can be and even women he will discard as if like a banana skin he slips on the floor or rots like an apple at the core.
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Yes, what is really going on? Shouldn’t the law be protecting these people? (Removed)
I am so relieved this has come out. What Mr Boyle is up to is nothing less than harrassment in the workplace and the law should be protecting the employees there. Employees are being told they have to attend these sessions with this (Removed) Georgina Dolan and people who have expressed resistance to it have been advised it would be a very unwise (Removed). Rather than doing any good for his company, he is making an even bigger ass of himself than people already believe him to be and distracting employees from their real work not only during the time they have to endure these sessions away from their desks, but the entire workforce can talk about nothing else. Everyone is whispering what they really think of him and her and most people are already making their own plans to leave and get out of it just as soon as they possibly can. Really there’s wiser locked up and it is a huge insult to the intelligence of his highly skilled workforce. Nice one Mr Boyle – is that what you hoped to achieve? This big investment intended to help staff as he says, has them boiling with anger and resentment instead. On the one hand he decalres the big investment (waste of money) being made in (Removed) and on the other hand he demotivates the staff with more news of yet more pay freezes and cancelled bonuses. He has everybody wondering – what the hell is this (Removed) going to come up with next and they are all worried about their jobs. He will most certainly lose a lot more than he will gain by this disastrous association with Georgina Dolan and most of that will be his very best employees. Watch this space!
I too am very concerned about what is happening at Boylesports. I don’t work for Boylesports myself, but I know some of the staff very well and also have relations working there. (Removed) As I understand it, if any of the staff refuse to attend these meetings ran by Georgina Dolan, they will be disciplined and maybe lose their jobs.
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It seems to me if the staff were given the choice they would probably not attend but unfortunately Quinn and his disciples know that because of the economy jobs are hard to come by and most people are only staying at Boylesports because of the lack of jobs elsewhere.
I totally agree with the last 2 comments, the staff are not only totally demoralised but genuinely frightened. (Removed) The atmosphere in the place is absolutely terrible at the minute. 3 years of pay freezes while he claims to be having the best results of his career in the Racing Post and no investment in staff or infrastructure. All like the Educo Tony Quinn nonsense like If you act successful you will be successful. (Removed) They want senior staff members to do one on one courses with Georgina now. There’s already been a huge Exodus of staff from Boylesports, many as a direct result of this and many more will follow.
He can’t sack everybody – they should stand together in saying no to this!
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Now that its one on one it’ll be even harder for them. Wonder what will happen next
She’s apparently giving everyone in the company a grade which will affect their future with the company. It hasn’t been explained on what basis people are being judged (certainly nothing to do with their work performance or career experience) and what professional credentials she has to imbue her with the authority to judge anyone. This is very unsettling for everyone and it is very disrespectful to his employees to treat them in this way. (Removed)
I would invite anyone who works at Boylesports to anonymously post opinions on the goings on at the company with respect to this article. If you know someone who works there send them this link. Let this act as a forum for the employees – past and present.
Even the best of them go bad once they’ve crossed that line. How about everyone shouting NO when he mentions ‘staff training’? Since the word spreads quickly about what is happening I doubt he’ll have people asking for employment unless they think they’re immune to hypnosis. I get very suspicious when I hear anything about stress relief. Does Gorgina give relaxation sessions? The one on one’s give me the creeps just thinking about it. I had one of them with another TQ worker influenced by Quinn and found myself doing something I would not have done before and I consider myself intelligent. If you value your mental health you need to put a stop to this so called training. Stay true to yourselves!
John Boyle will eventually bring his own company down. He considers his company in terms of a small corner shop instead of an internationl one. The people who work there obviously have no voice to put forward
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The guy has surrounded himself with yes men in the past few years. No one can say no as John is a genius and if they disagree they clearly are wrong. Im all for self belief but the guys gone over the edge. Worst business man I’ve ever delt with, his company was built by the people employed there not by JB. Though he’s convinced himself its all his and Tonys doing. Very sad and scary time for those still there.
Georgina did say they had been marking shop staff for the past few months without telling them, then they had to improve or else.” Some of them actually scored zero percent as they werent open to new things and many had blockages in their mind that let in negative thoughts”
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Guys, could I ask that on behalf of the current staff, who through fear of losing their jobs have little or no voice, that someone contact Joe Duffy or more newspapers to make more people aware of whats going on. The only thing that can stop it now is bad PR. Thanks to all who’ve left comments of support.
I agree with the last comment the only way to stop this madness is to get more media involved and the sooner the better. Get John Boyle on Joe Duffy and ask him what happens to staff who refuse this training?
I currently work for John Boyle and I am terrified of these so called training sessions. A meeting we had to attend last year (on my day off) that person Edit DI told us she had stopped her blood flow with her mind during a major gynecological operation with no anaethestic! Seriously I do not want that women anywhere near my mind.I do hope other staff members speak out as this has to stop.
Well there was quite a buzz today in Boylesports as pretty much everybody had read these posts las night and i think we will see many more staff coming forward tonight and posting messages. John Boyle spent the entire day closeted away with Georgina. I got the impression they were aware of these posts and the aftermath of Sunday’s article. I for one will be saying a firm no way to any invitation for a one to one with that head case!
The atmosphere today was electric in Boyles HQ. If John wanted a united staff he’s got it but not in the way he hoped. I hear that a MAJOR article is coming soon in one of the top papers. Will JB realise what he’s done and put an end to this before hand? Will he fuck!
There’s a lot more media interest coming up in this story too – TV as well so great PR job John! You know how to drive a company…..into the ground.
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I’m grateful this has been brought to external attention. Even with as much as I hate working here I still would consider myself happier than what Mr Boyle claims to be in his endorsements for TQ, the only time I have ever seen him smile is in publicity shots, in fact I personally would class him as downright ill-mannered
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This has been a long time coming. Why should we feel pressured into listening to what this woman has to say? I personally will not be attending her seminars or listening to any of her gripe, nor will I allow them to threaten my job over this either. I’m sure management are only too well aware that a lot of employees have joined SIPTU. I hope more do and we can start taking action against these moronic ideas that this man has in store for us!
Hi, I’d like to chip in with my €0.02 worth and give an employers point of view as all the comments so far appear to be employees. I do hope my comments can be of some help, even if you don’t agree with all of them.
(I don’t work for Boyle Sports and amn’t affiliated with JB)
I stumbled across this while reading the BVI court case with interest. I don’t know 1/2 the facts of that case having only read snippets here and there, but I’d like to learn the whole story when it comes out and hope anything that should be brought to light is, the judge is fair and that justice is genuinely served, whatever it may be.
If I may, I’d like to respond to some comments made above. I don’t like to see people unhappy their job as it’s unpleasant for everyone involved.
“people who have expressed resistance to it have been advised it would be a very unwise move”
and that staff refusing to attend the training
“will be disciplined and maybe lose their jobs. What happened to freewill”
“The poor staff at Boylesports don’t have the freedom to CHOOSE!”
“This has a breach of human rights written all over it.”
I’ll just come straight out and say it; Sorry, but a company is not a democracy. Final responsibility lies with the owner. If he makes good decisions he makes money and creates a lot of jobs and if he makes bad decisions he goes out of business. Either way, as the owner he has earned the right to make those decisions. You have free will. We all have the free will to go set up our own company and make our own decisions or the free will to leave a position we don’t like. Yes, our circumstances may make this difficult for us, but we’ve got to take responsibility for where we are in life.
In my earlier days as an employee, I’ve had to attend many different training courses. Some I really liked, some I was indifferent to and some I really hated and just didn’t want to be there for one second. For the ones I didn’t like, I don’t think that legally I had a choice in whether or not I wanted to attend. I just had to go. There was one in particular I didn’t want to go to, but I knew that if I refused, I’d be starting down the road to losing my job. Although it was unpleasant, I didn’t consider that unfair or unjust. I was paid to be there from 9-5 and my boss had the authority to direct how I spend this time. If I didn’t’ like it, nobody stopped me leaving. Sounds harsh but that’s what you sign up for when you accept a job offer.
What if a Manchester United footballer decided they didn’t want to take part in an unpleasant training session? How long would they last? Or what if they found Fergie’s “blowdryer” team talks unpleasant? There’s nobody forcing them to stay.
As an employer I’ve noticed that it’s quite normal for some/many staff to resist staff training programs. The more unusual/unorthodox, the more they are resisted. If I initiate a staff training program of some sort, and some employees don’t want to take part I would see it as a very unwise career move. I may wonder if they are going to be part of the company’s future growth. Again, I imagine this would be the case in practically every company.
“He claims the company turned over 1.2 billion last year but wont release the figures as its not true”
Whenever I meet another company owner I usually hear them boast about how much business they’re doing, or complaining about how they’re doing “nothing”. Most of the time I know they must be exaggerating, (although occasionally it is true). I’ve no idea about whether or not JB’s comments are accurate, but if they’re not, then he has a lot in common with about 90% of the other company owners I know.
“3 years of pay freezes while he claims to be having the best results of his career in the Racing Post and no investment in staff or infastructure.”
4 years of pay freezes is common in many Irish companies. In fact, I know employers who have had to let go of a lot of staff and given 15% pay cuts to those remaining.
“John Boyle as he is genuinely the least impressive, least inspirational company leader I have ever come across and it’s very evident there’s not too much of substance between his ears”
I’m not sure how relevant this comment is. I don’t know anything about JB’s work style, or know enough about him to like or dislike him, but if I was achieving revenues and profits like he is I wouldn’t be over concerned about whether some people think I’m “impressive” or “inspirational”. He seems to be getting bloody good financial results, in a very difficult environment, something which many smart, impressive, inspirational business people have failed to do. In every company I’ve ever worked in, it’s normal for people to complain about management and everyone seems to have an idea about how to run the company better. Fine. Go set up your own company and run it better.
“supremely arrogant”
So are/were many of the most successful business people in history.
Read “Steve Jobs” by Walter Isaacons. Personally, I couldn’t decide whether I would have loved or hating working for Steve Jobs. At times he seemed like a genius, at times he appeared like a ******.
Go read about other highly successful business owners. Many of them are certainly not average Joes. Google the billionaire “Ray Dalio” who is the most successful hedge fund manager in history. I’ve read forums similar to this where (some of his) staff tell stories about how terrible it is to work there, what crazy, pressuring training programs they have and, yes, New Yorker Magazine points out: “Critics say that he runs a cult.” Nonetheless, they are hugely successful and have people queuing up to join them, but it’s not for everyone and some leave. C’est la vie. Again, if you don’t like the style there’s no one putting a gun to their heads forcing them to apply for jobs, or to stay there if it doesn’t suit them.
If I was working at a job I wasn’t happy with I’d decide whether I’m going to leave or stay.
If deciding to leave: (assuming I couldn’t just quit as my family needed my income). Firstly, I’d give it one last shot to see what would happen if my performance improved and if my prospects could get better. I’d go along with the training (I didn’t like) and see what good I might be able to get out of the training (as I did in the past) and I’d see if me actually doing my job really well and per my employers wishes helped improve my prospects. If after improving my performance, results and prospects I still wanted to leave, I’d be working all evening and weekend sending out CV’s, networking trying to find job openings that may suit, or trying to figure out what business I would start and then making preparations.
I do hope that anyone unhappy right now can figure out a way to improve things for themselves, whatever way they approach it or decide is best for them.
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Furthermore if I were paid what a professional footballer is paid, maybe my tolerance levels for bad management, lack of leadership and downright bad decisions would be a lot higher too. Fact is we are seriously underpaid by industry remuneration rates. Other companies in the industry recruiting for the same positions are paying so much more and there is no such thing as pay freezes because pretty much everyone in the industry are seeing growth in profits. We also see the KPIs here so we know there’s growth and the only reason for pay freezes and cancelled bonuses for people who have broken their backs to blow their targets out of the water, is yet more bad decisions by JB to invest in things he should not be investing in – yet again!!!
Another irish employer – I wonder if you are getting the point. The staff are being sent to hypnosis sessions run by 2 people heavily involved in Tony Quinns empire.* I am all for staff training but there is enough of a trail of distruction behind Tony for anyone to be concerned about being forced to go to his seminars. But then again I’m sure like me, everyone has realised who you are Edited DI. and would hope that you can talk some sense into the guy.
Indeed it’s your futue at stake here too and it’s high time somebody other than JB was driving that company, unimpinged by his mad ideas, bad judgement and disastrous investments.
Another Irish Employer : To try to compare what’s been going on these last few years at boyles with a normal working enviroment is akin to Comical Ali’s assesments on the Iraq v US war http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9aW1atFLMM
I was unfortunate enough to be in a ‘group’ meeting with Georgina Dolan. She accused someone attending of not been intune – really i’m sure thats going to help. The whole thing is insane . Were it not for the recession many of us would have left a long time ago. The idea that this is helping people is ridiculous, i have not met ANYONE in the office who thinks this is in anyway beneficial. The arrogance behind all of this is breathtaking and the end result is that this just undermines peoples confidence in themselves.
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Compliance is only done out of fear-otherwise i might be the next manufactured ”redundancy” at Boylesports. The whole thing is a complete disgrace and i have had enough. My hands are shaking as i write this. I hope johns lawyers litigate against the comments on this forum as the more publicity this gets the better. THIS MUST STOP NOW.
Does this sound familiar anyone ? http://www.howcultswork.com/
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I’m encouraged that employees are posting on here. Would it be possible for this fledgling resistance movement to pool our resources and actually find out where we stand from a legal point of view. Some people might be fortunate enough to be able to move companies easily but a lot of individuals are well settled in the area and have industry specific jobs. The best outcome for those people is undoubtedly an end to this academy of success.
It’ll be fairly straightforward for Boyles to pick individuals off one by one, they have previous form for this. If we were all armed with the correct information, knew where we stood legally, what our rights as employees are, it would make it harder for them.
I don’t know where to start looking though. I assume an employer would be within their rights make an employee go into a board room for 30 minutes but I would doubt very much if they can force the employee to close there eyes. The quasi hypnotic nature of the meetings and the lack of disclosure about Georgina’s qualifications probably provides us with a reasonable reason for not attending. But we need to know the facts. Does anyone know a good employment lawyer?
Do we need to prepare some collective action on this?
John Boyle, if you are reading, I actually think deep down you are deceny guy who has been badly misled and taken advantage of. Please make this academy optional.
Yes the top Employment lawyer in Ireland is Pat Moore Tel+44 7939937804 and he used to fight on behalf of employers insurance companies so he’s now poacher turned game keeper representing employees! He’s just what’s needed.
sorry that should have been +44 7939937804
All employees should stick together. Down tools and go on strike see how long it takes for JB to listen then! Everyone knows what happened to former employees who have refused to meet Georgina…….Its time to stand together and take action!
Power to you,the employees !!!!!
So who’s going to organise the stroke – where do I sign?
sorry strike – no edit on these comments lol :-)
lol :) all in good time my friend .
By the way employment lawyer email address is patrick.moore@mclemploymentlaw.co.uk
Is everyone aware of additional commets on this page too? http://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2012/06/25/from-comm2post-from-those-affected-by-the-boyles-law/#comment-17813
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Does anyone think that johnny Vegas is gonna sit back and watch dr evil make a tit of himself, and then swoop in to takeover the company?
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Dialogue Ireland is in touch with some people already and they are sending us mails and commenting anonymously. If the person behind the email address standuptoboyle@hotmail.com would like to contact us @ info@dialogueireland.org we can act as a clearing house to be sure of secure communication.
We also have a forum where you folks could organise yourselves http://dialogueireland.org/forum/ Our web master will assist, or you can stay on this site.
I have heard that there is already some people that have joined a union but that there is not enough of them to put real pressure on Mr. Boyle. Seek these people out give them your suuport.
Bring back Heather, at least the ship was heading in the right direction!
ha what good would she do, as she stood by for years watching this
Is there anything that can actually be done to stop Boyle forcing his staff into doing this course? He has already changed the wording of it to “customer service” course, which makes it impossible for staff to refuse to go leaving them with the choice to attened the course or leave…
Maybe this is what he wants,Long serving staff who have helpped to build the company to what it is today to leave so he can replace them with new staff on short low hour contracts that he can do what he likes with and pay even less than he does already.
Does he not realise that his staff are the most important part of his company. They are the front line, the people that made his company, the people that take in the money that makes him wealthy, the people that stand and take the abuse of the general public every day for him. They get abused, treatened,attacked, robbed and all for him.
He sends out emails saying that due to the economic climate he wont be paying any bonus and then the following emails tells them how good the company is doing and all the millions it is making. Talk about kicking your staff while they are down…
If your staff are not happy it will not create a happy enviroment for your customers and you will not make your staff happy by bullying, forcing, intimidating them into doing something they don’t want to do and are in fear of. I could go on but is there a point..
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John, Tony Quinn didn’t make your business what it is today, your staff did. Including those you treated like dirt on your shoe and just dispossed of.
Wake up and stop wasting your money on Tony Quinn. Pay your staff right and and treat them with respect and they in return will respect you again. You will have a happier work force and an over all better company and then you really can feel great about yourself.
Its sad that those closest to john have let this happen to him and they may think that the comments about him are upfair, but this really is how staff feel all over the country. Hurt and badly let down. I’d like to think that John or one of his closest are reading this and realise how upset staff are.
Excellent post boyleing mad
Pushing staff while they are down and to breaking point is the way it has been for a long time now. This course really is the tip of the iceberg. No shame.
I totally agree with the last comment. Am I on the titanic (Boylesports) I don’t see any lifeboats out there.
It’s sound like you are at the end of your tether. It’s commendable that so many of you in Boylesport are resisting their mindbending course but SOMEONE needs to speak out on your behalf.
I can’t understand why government ministers are dragging their heels about protecting the Irish people from cults. Bombarding them with letters of complaint would be a start.
POWER TO THE RESISTANCE!!!
To add to the above comments, remarkably “The Academy For Success” drivel was sent to employees after 6pm Friday, conveniently when most people in Head Office had gone home for the weekend. exactly the same “mind training programme” only rebranded as a Customer Services training programme.Sent by the HR Manager (surely someone who should have grave reservations about this?
) Still I’m sure she is quite aware of the implied consequences of not sending it out!
There has been a mass exodus of people out of the company in the last year or so from all departments and this seems to be increasing on a weekly basis from senior management down to retail staff.
In my opinion one reason for this is the increased workload and pressure put on employees to cover for the people who have left and not been replaced. Trying to match the biggest bookmaker in Ireland yet with only a quarter of the staff and resources. And yet for coping admirably, what do the employees get?…….
Pay freeze going on 4 years, no recognition of any hard work done, not even a Xmas bonus.
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Even though i’m sure John Boyle is very aware of the concern this is all causing to his employees, when I saw him the other day he told me he was feeling as “fantastic” as usual !!
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Boyle’s “fantastic” feeling is easily attained because of extensive hypnosis. It is a programme that blocks any opposition to what he wants, or wants you to believe, at that moment. He hasn’t realised that too much of this can drive him nuts. He could also be relying on the ‘energy’ to put it right and using the Postal Request system so he doesn’t have to worry about it. This is another money spinner for Quinn, tax free, straight into his bank account.
He walks around with not a care in the world and it becomes important that, even if it is not true, he gives that impression. Quinn would say that it is a superior way of being. The mind master only thinks about what he wants, never about what he does not want. Negative people who have negative thoughts need brainwashing to snap them into the positive.
The fact that they are trying to deceive you about the title of the training is very underhanded.
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I work in one of the shops and Im very concerned about this academy for success. Can we refuse to go? Will I be fired if I don’t attend? Im a siptu member but I haven’t contacted them yet.
Im also a manager in one of the shops and quite concerned.
I was wondering if there is anybody that has attended this so called “training course” that could provide some more details on what goes on at them, from a non brainwashed point of view.
Or are you on “the other side” once you’ve been in there and wont devulge the secrets.
I was also wondering has any one been in touch with Heather in relation to this subject. Ive been considering contacting her myself to see what her thoughts are on all of this. I feel this is also a part of the reason for the sudden departure of the woman that in my opinion was Boylesports
How about making a stand, and all shop managers joining forces in saying NO we wont attend this training course thank you very much. they cant fire us all.
This seems to be some sort of “self improvement thing” and absolutely nothing to do with what we have already been trained to do and for the most part do quite well! that being the running of successful betting shops.
Training for your job is one thing, but this “life coaching/selfimpovement/brainwashing” is not something your employer has a duty to provide, certainly not against your will!
DI Moderation: I would suggest you contact your union rep to ask them to seek clarification from their legal experts and for them to seek a meeting with management.
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Saw someone else post this …if anyone, who’s not in the company, wants to get an idea of what its like to be in a mind melt session with Georgina..just look at this video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0. It’s actually scary the similarities in language used. Throw in some “I’ve gone under surgery without anaesthetic” and “you need to get to the next level ” , “you either in or out, there’s no middle ground” and its the exact same mantra. Frightening, truly frightening.
we should definitely all go on strike!
Thanks Anon for youtube. So true! Cruise is scary and yet hilarious at the same time. He really overdid the acting. These cults seem to think, and I include TQ’s EDUCO, that if they can show the public how dementedly ‘happy’ they are that this will draw people in. Tom doesn’t have much to smile about at the moment and lets hope he stands by his family rather than Scientology.
What is stopping him from jumping and romping around on the strand? Fear of being seen as a mindless prat!! Some top guy in Scientology had a word with him about the publics dismayed reaction when he showed his ‘happiness’ on Oprah and put a stop to that. God save us from such morons who dream of ruling the world.
POWER TO THE RESISTANCE!
i am so happy people are voicing there opinions on here for all the top brass to see as opposed to on the phone to each other after one of these mind f**k meetings, i have been at these meetings and seen 1st hand the affect it is having on people. they are in a state of confusion much like a hypnosis show i attended before. I have never fully complied with Georgina’s sessions i won’t allow myself to. She starts every meeting by telling everyone this is not optional and threatened a senior member of staff’s job who she said was disruptive. she was clearly threatened by the individual because he/she was not disruptive just clearly not interested much like the rest of us. she was trying to make an example. This is not improving staff morale this is making us more non-compliant.Ill give you a hint john the way to improve the results you get from staff is to pay them for it not try and brainwash them just because your seeing life through rose tinted glasses the rest of us live in the real world pay up or shut up.THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING GOOD THOUGHTS BAD THOUGHTS ABOUT THE PAST FUTURE OR PRESENT. SO I WON’T BE THINKING ABOUT THE NOW AND ONLY THIS MOMENT. ILL THINK WHATEVER I WANT TO THINK. EMPLOYEES NEED TO JOIN SIPTU SO WE HAVE A COLLECTIVE VOICE.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q_V_qfrOy6Q rope a dope herself. i wonder what she would say if we were all fully under her spell in these meetings
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14kz3ribIA8 more freaky tony quinn shit
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I currently work for jb and I’m not happy with this so called academy of success!!!, it’s was forced upon us and Georgina with breathing techniques can go to hell,(Removed)!, a lot of the staff are very unhappy with the paycuts, pay freezes etc, etc , they might think the staff are all willing to ” ride on the crest of a wave!!” (Removed)!! Ha he couldn’t be more wrong!! And the day people can find another job to go it will be bye bye ” boylesports ” oops spoiledsports!!!!, I just hope that with the staff joining siptu we will have more rights as employee’s because it sure doesn’t feel like it at present!!
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I am an ex manager of Boylesports.
Tony Quinn has turned something that can be good into something which is obsessive, self centred and evil. Most highly successful people do live “in the now” and do avoid negative thoughts etc (probably naturally) plus they tend to be stubborn about achieving their objectives. This is all moderated by common sense and decency. Also they do not try to ram there way of thinking down other people’s throats.
They influence other people by example.
A good Christian god fearing person certainly can be admired but when they start to rant about the gospels etc and try to ram their own personal beliefs down other people’s throats then people just regard them as a religious nut and this will tend to drive people away from religion rather than towards it. A real good person leads by example.
John you are not in the now -
You have the fixed thoughts programmed into you – 1. That everyone is fucked up like me and needs reprogrammed (€20K a pop if you can). This is clearly not true. – 2. I am so happy and successful that I need to keep telling this to myself. Clearly you are not really happy. You actually look and sound demented. Your business was becoming very successful long before you found this new obsession and would have continued on that path but it is now becoming increasingly less successful at an alarming rate. You are now the biggest joke in the gambling world.
You need to snap out of your hypnosis and move into the “NOW”.
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Got an email today from Educo Gym in Dundalk flagging their dying gym ( RIP ) Calling themselves EXEBER, now with guest speaker Paul Barnes, Nutritional Therapist . These guys think they can advertise their way out off this and take advantage of people .
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the staff counsel is a joke!! it won’t benefit us in the slightest.
i contacted siptu myself and they have sent a letter to boylesports asking for a meeting about all this. they have advised me not to attend these meetings until told otherwise.
“The bookmaker John Boyle of Boylesports has been so impressed with Quinn’s teachings that his employees now do courses given by a long-time associate of the guru, Georgina Dolan”
The Irish Independent should change that with respect to the employees of Boylesports are FORCED to these courses.
http://www.independent.ie/lifestyle/independent-woman/celebrity-news-gossip/tony-quinn-his-young-lover-eve-his-massive-fortune-and-the-prayers-for-cash-3161079.html
spot the difference if you can
Tom Cruise: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFBZ_uAbxS0
John Boyle: http://www.educoworld.com/portfolio/john-boyle-john-boyle-the-value-to-me-of-the-tony-quinn-seminar-irealnd/
“The Irish Independent asked Boylesports about the Quinn link to the courses on offer. In a statement, which made no mention of Quinn, it defended the courses, saying they were aimed at supporting the “self-development and career path” of staff.
It said the courses would “focus on various elements of our business model including sales, customer service, social media, IT training and responsible gambling. In doing so, we are enabling our staff to take charge of building their successful career and, in turn, growing our company to ensure its continued success.”
—- Nothing in that sham of a ‘course’ was focused on business model, sales, customer service, social media, IT training or responsible gambling. Embarrassing that they’re now trying to put that spin on things so that they can maintain the idiotic compulsory nonsense. Wise up!
As Shakespeare might say – take arms against a sea of troubles, and by opposing, end them.
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John, keep the sterling work up. (Removed) Of course, it was probably in the stars that these clearly “negative energy”, “in thought”, “not in life” people” should leave. “Good riddins” I say.
No worries Georgina will sort it, no problem. Only a matter of holding hands, taking a few more starry eyed tablets, lighting a few extra candles and putting you into a deeper than normal trance and then you will surely know what to do. Under no circumstances let self doubt creep in. God forbid. “Unopposed thought” to the very end. WOW, How heroic.
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(Removed) These people were actually great at their jobs and professional leaders who had the total respect and support of their highly skilled teams. The teams they leave behind will be the next to follow I can assure you and then the company will go into a tail spin. The hairs on the back of my neck stand up the minute Georgina walks into the office. I will personally be refusing to attend these compulsory courses and if they try to get rid of me because of it they will face the mother of all cases for constructive dismissal.
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Georgina has the boardroom booked tomorrow Fri 13th July from 10.30 – 3.30p.m so who has been invited to that meeting and under what guise is it being held? Can you not all collectively refuse to go / simply not show up? Take a stand and have some balls tomorrow for goodness sake. Where in your contracts does it say you have to do this? Nowhere that’s where! This is an insult to your intelligence to stand up to it now!
It’s absolutely disgusting that people like TQ can get away with what they do. It’s no different to the so-called “medium” on TV3 in the early hours that so many people are complaining about! Charlatans, the lot of them. You might think – “sure he’s only taking money from the gullible..” – well, unfortunately it’s not as simple as that. (Removed)
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Again these so-called lunchtime bytes branded as “The Academy of Excellence” are being foist upon unsuspecting individuals a a moment’s notice such as Social Media, Customer Service and other subjects yet to be announced (for that read because they’re doing it off the cuff as a guise to cover up what the Academy of Excellence was truly intended to be). They do this so that they can respond.to questions from the press or other bodies that what’s on offer is training that is actually remotely pertinent to the development of skills associated to the industry we work in.The content of the presentations is so huried and without overall direction that the purpose is painfully ovious. You are fooling nobody and I would recommend you do not waste your time with these sessions.
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Haven’t they bled enough money out of the Irish economy?
We cannot underestimate how Quinn will look to profit, if he isn’t already doing so, from Boylesports. My gut feeling is that if seminar prices come down enough there is the possibility of compulsory attendance in the future. Using Quinn’s terminology, ‘the weed’ that needs pulling out is himself and the roots of his plans for Boylesports destroyed once and for all.
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Did anyone see all the extra work we have to do with these new hi tech Rotas etc, omg nightmare, next thing they will shut call centre and have us takin the calls instead.
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quietest Galway ever. people finally starting to realise how mean Boyles are.
tenth place what a special this had to be the brainchild of the manchild that is jb
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Have any of you read about what was and probably still happening in INE in Belize? Talk about Quinn’s need to take over a company! It is impossible to have shares if you have not been on one of his seminars! His need to control is pathalogical.
I doubt the directors of the company knew what they were letting themselves in for even if they were seduced into believing he made it happen. The shareholders were duped into believing everything was alright. Isn’t he the great magician altogether! Everything he touches turns to dust. The Judge ruled Quinn and Morrice unfit to run the company but decided not to close it to give the class B shareholders a chance to take them to court. (Removed)
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Saw Georgina was still there at HQ a few days ago but no idea what for or what her role is supposed to be now. It’s obviously not over yet if she’s still around!
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Tricia, unfortunately it seems Boylesports like i am sure other companys took adavantage of the downturn and staff were not at the high list of the agenda. On another occasion the shop i worked in had the hours cut but our contracts were not changed. Our contracted hours were 96 for the 3 staff but all of a sudden we were cut to 90 hours and were told quite clearly we could not go over these. So yes we were down in our salaries because of this. I tried to complain but due to my direct manager going away on a months sabatical/holiday/gardening leave whatever he called it then i was told to bring it to his attention when he came back. When i did eventually speak to him about this and being single manned in the shop i was told that this was the only way the shop could survive. So how can you argue with that. As i said sadly i did not stand up for myself and others the way i should have.
I know they say any publicity good or bad is great but i am very surprised that Mr Boyle would be happy with this scandal especially after The Love Triangle Employment Tribunal that happened the end of last year that cost Mr Boyle at least 60 Thousand Euro.
@angie there are a few strands to consider, only some staff are in unions, not all the same unions, some staff worked for other bookmakers that Boyles took over so they won’t rock the boat cos they are on better terms and conditions than the rest of us. They will be the ones watching us all and tellin us to go on strike but not doin anythin themselves, while they sit on the staff council, look at ladbrokes they did not adheres to labour court recommendations and their chief exec wants to get involved in legislation to be open all year till 10, love the idea of a strike or stoppage downing tools on Saturdays etc… Still too many yes brigade in shops that are too close to the area managers. I am with siptu but not a lot in province are in unions. Other than the love triangle, did anyone else take them to court out of curiousity?.
Georgie: Thanks for the information. We’ll just have to keep it in the news one way or another. It’s obvious that something needs to be done about the whole set-up. Labour Court recommendations need to be changed to Labour Court laws. I don’t know how they can sleep at night when they take advantage of workers like that.
Mike Garde from Dialogue was in court aswering ridiculous questions put to him by Morrice’s legal team. She is a director of INE. What I like about it is Morrice and Quinn guarantee newspaper articles that include Dialogue and the service they provide for the public. We also get great coverage of what happens; who says what etc., Quinn is the biggest liar you could ever meet. In his last court case Morrice had to lie to the court rather than disagree with what Quinn had already given as evidence. Documents were forged to back up what he said and even then he could not get his story straight. The whole thing is a farce. Talk about shooting themselves in the foot.
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Have you read the latest on Dialogue? An ex-educoist protested with DI and posted on Protest Tony Quinn Pictures. She had a bit of a hard time with a number of educoists. She wasn’t fazed by them at all. Their anger came to the surface to protect their ‘saviour’. Quite a few old age pensioners like himself dressed in their Sunday best and others dressing as if going out for a night on the town.
Reading DI’s account and Eve’s it gives a fuller picture of his cowardice and the lies Quinn tells them. Seriously, two older men, shareholders in INE, blatently lied about getting dividents and one of them backtracked and admitted it was a loan. From this I gather Quinn approves of him as anyone who stood up to him got nothing! THIS IS THE TRUTH! Security moved in to take him away from Mike Garde. This crowd, for definite, are totally brainwashed. The numbers are dwindling. Visualising a rusty bucket with a leak. No stopping ex-educoists from leaving their false ‘prophet’. No-one, in their right mind, would want to be hypnotically controlled by anyone never mind Quinn the Deceiver. God works in mysterious ways as the truth keeps coming out about the hold he has over them. It’s plain to see. (Removed)
Thanks Angie. You have a good understanding of what is going on. Quinn gives people a hard time when they don’t agree with him and gets his educoists to do the dirty work. They don’t know who I am so I feel safe.
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Unless something drastic happens to sever the tie between himself and Quinn, the day is coming when John Boyle will be out in the cold with the rest of them. Quinn ignores lifelong friends because they don’t fit in with his new gambling lifestyle in Vegas. Boyle is around a number of years but, I bet that Quinn will have forgotten he ever existed once there is no ‘site of gold’ in them there shops of gambling.
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We will keep adding these comments to our post
Thank you Dialogueireland but to be honest a bit frightened to say anything on here in case they figure who I am …unfortunately need this job and terrified of the repercussions !!!!
“If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality.” … Desmond Tutu
“This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever.” … Sigmund Freud on the Irish
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Oppression can only survive through silence.
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The most potent weapon of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed.
Steven Biko
Its beyond me how none of the papers haven’t picked up on this!
But what would the papers say workers are to afraid to speak up . They would have nothing but here say!!
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Spotlight, BBC1, Tuesday 16th October @ 10.35pm. Documentary and investigation into Tony Quinn and his financial dealings. Could be worth a look.
Quinn the control freak! It will certainly open your eyes to what he is capable of and how B shareholders under his control are blinded to his true intentions but will they WAKE UP?
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Regarding the post about Spotlight, BBC1, Tuesday 16th October @ 10.35pm. Documentary and investigation into Tony Quinn and his financial dealings. I see it’s BBC N.Ireland will it be on in ROI too?
Yes, and we will have it up on the web soon after that.
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Spotlight has focused our attention on Quinn’s EDUCO system and it is obvious how destructive he is when he gets involved in business. You have seen the effects of Quinn’s treatment of Sheila McCaffrey when she refused to accept his ‘business’ plans for INE. The REAL story has yet to be aired about how Quinn set out to destroy her. She is still getting over the effects of it. Morrice is a perfect example of his techniques. She is destroying her company’s reputation and losing any standing she has in the oil business. She totally disregards the law and lies for (Removed)
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Angie I believe this person has answered your question! The DI campaign has assisted in ending the courses.
This for the following reason. There is no evidence that Boylesports is under the influence of TQ. Unless we receive further evidence to the contrary we are of the opinion that John Boyle is still under the influence of Quinn’s philosopy.
Also we were given information from ex Educoists that GD is a convinced Educoist, but that her activities though possibility influenced by Quinn are not directly simple Educo courses. We have written this on a number of occasions.
I have started to work in the Boyle’s HQ in Dundalk about 6 months ago and i have to say that all this ‘cult’ish behaviour must be kept well hidden as i’ve yet to see any of it! My dealings with the JB himself have been kept to a bare minimum thus far. Who do i need to watch out for because i’ve become a little alarmed after reading these post, that maybe i cant see the wood for the trees!
Unless we receive further information from inside and I have to tell you all my sources have dried up, which either indicates they have left the company or that the issues we raised have been addressed.