Anonymous response and reply from our Bahamas correspondent

We often receive a comment on  our blog from supporters of Quinn. We continually request such people or Quinn himself to publish a response on the blog. Considering he claims to have a doctorate it would seem normal he would engage in a reply. Our mandate involves giving all sides of the debate a voice, but we have only received distracting attempts by Quinn to trawl our files for references to him. We received two requests to DI last summer under the Data Protection legislation. We immediately published any relevant documents on our site to make them public. We are resolute in our mission to inform the public. We have no desire to harm Quinn, and wish him a very happy new year, but we are engaged in seeking the truth and it must come out.

Submitted on 2012/01/08 at 5:55 pm

I did my seminar in 2004 and to be honest it has helped me release alot of my emotional blocks from my past, even beyond therapy. Because the EDUCO thinking is outside the norm people of course think its a cult and if this is the case then was catholosism a cult at the beginning!!! I would say it is a different way of living your life as we are all entitled to live our lives anyway we choose without hurting people. The tools given at the seminars are realistic and if you choose to use them then things work out, if you dont use them well you are back to where you started before seminar – so you are going to feel hurt etc. I can only talk from my experience but some of the terminology like ‘do nothing’ and ‘use other people’s money’ did not help me as I did nothing and also borrowed more money than I should have, which i have now paid back – I did not understand the true concept as it wasnt explained very well. Anyway in recent times he has corrected this information and basically it is all about believing in our true selves – SPIRIT or GOD or LIFE whatever you want to call it – to be present always and to trust SPIRIT, GOD or LIFE to guide us and trust me when you do life is much better, honestly. Also Tony is human like us all, and who hasnt made mistakes in life and this is now his journey which he needs to experience in whatever form it takes for him.
SF

As our mission is to raise awareness we are happy to publish this article about the activities of Tony Quinn.

http://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/category/tony-quinn/

http://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2009/01/18/the-tony-quinn-story-%E2%80%9Cfrom-butcher-to-oil-slick%E2%80%9D/

http://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/2010/02/16/summary-of-media-coverage/

FINDING THE TRUTH AND NOT COVER-UP AND QUINN’S CULT PROPAGANDA

Anonymous, your comments may be well-intentioned or just more of the Quinnite attempts to cover-up the reality of this cultist group.  Playing word games about the meaning of “cult” is irrelevant to the real issues discussed here as the word has a broad meaning to the general public as a destructive group that exploits people.  A cult promises much more than it delivers and is seriously abusive in that it takes a lot more than it gives.  This fits the reality of Quinn’s original Yoga (nowadays Educo) perfectly well enough.  You say you got some benefits emotionally from involvement with Quinn, well many found exactly the opposite on a dramatic scale.  It’s not just about ex-followers feeling “hurt” because of a lack of results, as you state, and you are either seriously missing the point or guilty of hugely minimising or even denying the trail of destruction emotionally and financially from Quinn’s cultist activities over 40 years.  In any event, people experience emotional benefits and improvements from many possible sources e.g. proper therapy, healthy relationships, meditational exercises, placebos, etc, so without details of the benefits you state you received and comparison with results from other systems of self-improvement this doesn’t remotely establish that Quinn’s “methods” constitute an effective system of self-development.

 

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5 Responses

  1. Hi.
    I really am shocked to see that there are people out there who have a negative view on Tony Quinn.

    I see the word “cult” has been used many times. You said, “A cult promises much more than it delivers” well you could include the catholic church in that category could you not? Or any other church or organisation.

    Firstly you really must look at this from a wider perspective.
    Literally thousands of people have been on his seminars to date.
    But only a handful of people have regretted attending.
    It is only a tiny fraction of the total number of attendees.

    There were maybe thirty people on my seminar.
    Everyone was thrilled with their investment, to this day I still meet some of them, I will admit there was one lady who did not fully “get it” perhaps the seminar was not explained properly to her before she made her decision to go. With such high numbers attending over the years this would be hard to avoid as anyone who attends can refer someone.

    Secondly, I have heard about so many other seminars from other people in this area, Tony Robbins, etc. It`s like anything else in life, you must put what you learn into practice to reap the rewards. The easy option is just to say it doesn`t work and criticise it… This is clearly the case with anyone who has a problem his material.

    It`s quite simple for me,
    I went on his seminar 5 years ago,
    For a year after returning, I didn`t really notice much difference,
    However I kept attending his meetings and really started to put it into practice. I’m just much more fulfilled, happier.
    I’m quite financially secure. But the greatest thing I have gained without question is how I now relate to people, especially my personal relationship.

    Instead of focusing on this so called “trail of destruction” left by TQ
    Perhaps you should look at the massive positive changes he has made in the lives of so many.

    That would be a broad minded approach as opposed to a one sided bias conclusion. It`s best not to interpret ambiguous evidence to support your position.

  2. beware of false gods bearing gifts !

  3. Dear M. J. Waites

    You say “I really am shocked to see that there are people out there who have a negative view on Tony Quinn”. You clearly haven’t looked very far or are very easily shocked!

    There are masses of people who have huge issues with Quinn, over 40 years. Check out the comments on this and other websites for an overviewt. Check out the huge number of negative media exposes on Quinn’s false claims.

    Do you support his deceptions? You need to make your position clear on these and other problems for a start before accusing others of being biased. You choose to ignore the financial and emotional rape carried out by Dr. (bogus doctorate, of course) Quinn over 40 years.

    Once again, there is the Quinnite dissembling over the word “cult”. You quote, “A cult promises much more than it delivers” and state “well you could include the catholic church in that category could you not? Or any other church or organisation”.

    The Catholic church and its flaws is not the organisation under discussion here. Quinn and his organisation is the issue here. Many Catholics and other church members would disagree with your evaluations. For a start, they could easily point out that, as a Catholic, you don’t have to pay 18, 000 Euros for garbled, third-hand plagiarised “teachings”, as many psychologists, therapists and other who have carried out a serious evaluation of Quinn’s “system” have concluded.

    Dr. Quinn is not just another motivational, self-help, self-improvement speaker like Tony Robbins as you choose to portray him. Quinn is a dyed-in-the-wool occultist who ran his communes in Dublin fro many years and practiced his “sex magic” methods on his female devotees, while he exploited and ruined the lives of hundreds of young people who you could look up if you were interested but it seems you’re more interested in denying the “trail of destruction” you mention. There is no “ambiguous evidence” here, despite your attempts to dismiss and portray peoples’ suffering as such. People have told their histories of involvement with Quinn in self-help groups for “survivors” of Quinn’s abuse. Your attempts to sweep Quinn’s sins under the carpet will utterly fail as we see that despite massive efforts by Quinn’s diminishing flock (and personnel from the “troubled” oil company) to promote him. It’s about time, the false, self-proclaimed “messiah” confronted the issues instead of relying on his followers to defend him. Quinn is overwhelmingly rejected by the people of Ireland who have got his true measure after 40 years of his cult. Quinn peaked about 30 years ago, now he can run but he can’t hide. His karma is catching up on him.

    Where are the real examples of success? Quinn, himself, is a deeply flawed personality that feeds off of young people and hides behind women, running from country to country, essentially of no fixed abode as he represents himself to the courts, on the run from the legal battles, many of which he originates to silence any criticism. Quinn has never provided a shred of good scientific data to show meaningful and concrete results from his methods, over and above placebo effects and that couldn’t have been achieved by spending less than 180 Euros (not 18,000 + Euros) for the original literature that Quinn plagiarised, misinterpreted and “reinterpreted” as Educo. Many of his closest associates, who often gave “testimonials” as if they were not closely connected with his organisation are now in dire straits financially. They probably won’t have the guts to tell the truth.

    Quinn was dabbling in hypnosis and NLP in the 1990s, despite claiming to be Jesus for 20 years before this, and he never even became an accredited hypnotherapist, just tried to rebrand himself as a self-improvement guru while burying the mountain of old failures by blaming his unfortunate victims (they too apparently “didn’t get it”) who had slaved for him devotedly for 20 years. If you think that’s good behaviour, you seriously need to look at your choices. You say you were happy on your seminar and that you still are and some other attendees (you don’t say how many) also are. That’s your decision but doesn’t establish anything meaningful about the effectiveness of Quinn’s methods.

    Some who paid huge sums for so little in any cultist scheme will, years later, attempt to defend their actions. Marketers call it “defending your purchasing decision” even when it’s clearly been very bad value. Psychologists and cult-leaders know all bout “cognitive dissonance” whereby the victims will defend the cult all the more, the more it goes downhill.

    Quinn’s star is irredeemiably sinking. You can’t save him.

  4. Tony Quin deserves to be put away. My sister in-law lost well over $50,000. because of the oil fraud he said he was investing. I am from Belize where he supposedly invested in oil that was not there. I am researching archives in Belize. We do have oil drilling now but her so called secretary says they have lost all investments. My wife is still hoping to get even because her sister passed away in2006. She was broke because of Quin.

  5. Dear Steve for Anna
    Your family member is one of many hundreds of people suffering the the hands of Quinn, Morrice and the flunkies running the oil company in Belize.

    The company according to their own press “had the best year ever in 2011″ and in true Quinn style they will leave everyone else bankrupt while they cream out all the money.

    There will be a day of reckoning soon. There are legal cases underway against these people and 2012 will see a turn. Shareholders like your family member need to be fully informed how to receive information from other members of the company. This can be provided to you if you wish.

    This cult has riuned people’s lives but its is exposed now and there is a duty on each person that has this knowledge to help adn support others.

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