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A relation of mine is involved with an organisation called Humanity in Unity (HIU), led by a charismatic female leader currently known as Sai Maa. Sai Maa is a disciple of the infamous Sai Baba, and often refers to him as her mentor.
My relation has visited the US to attend “courses” run by this woman. I know these courses are very expensive, and that substantial sums have also been given to a “trust” for Sai Maa’s “health and well-being”. My relation has recently began discussing the sale of property he owns, on various pretexts. Over the past year, my relation has begun associating more and more with people associated with this organisation. Over time, they have taken up more of his time, to the point it is difficult to meet him on his own, i.e. he is almost always in their company. This has been concurrent with a gradual lessening of time spent between my relation and his friends and family. I am deeply worried about him. He tends to be gullible and naive, and is easily led. If anyone has information on this organisation or people associated with it, I would be grateful to hear it.
http://www.humanityinunity.org/Humanity/Home/index.cfm
http://www.humanityinunity.org/utility/showArticle/?objectID=5897
Filed under: Hindu-based, Sai Maa
Maybe your relation finds it more spiritually fulfilling to be with his friends at HIU than his family and friends at home.
I wish to share with you that I have been very blessed by knowing Sai Maa. She is pure light and love of the divine mother. Maa has assisted me through many difficult soul challenges. When a person gets involved with a powerful healer it is up to the individual how they respond. Maa does not encourage devotees. She wishes to create Masters so they are their own guru.
I must say I find it a bit suspect, a ‘christian’ organization
looking into cultism. There can only be an inherent agenda, as you cannot be independent can you.
I love the expression ‘he who points the finger has three fingers pointed at himself’…
It is interesting that you came up with this is it not?
Further development took place in 2001, when Dialogue Ireland, though continuing to be supported by the churches, became an independent Trust, thus giving it greater freedom in carrying out its mission. Mike Garde is now the Director of Dialogue Ireland and is supported by a strong executive committee. *So DI Ireland will work with those from other creeds like Judaism, Hinduism, Islam or Buddhism which reject cultist tendencies. Also we are happy to cooperate with those who reject religion – sceptics, agnostics and atheists who share a common view of cultism. Freedom of the mind is our common platform for cooperation and we do not see this work as an opportunity to promote our particular faith position.
http://dialogueireland.wordpress.com/about/
Can it be plainer we defend the rights of people to think for themselves.
Perhaps you could revert to us now that you have a better picture?
I have just been left by my husband so he can immerse himself in her followings and teachings…..so it is a most confusing time. He has been telling me that being with her is “finding God” and that he now “knows his path” – he is staying in Colorado to be a part of this community. I don’t know what to make of it but am very disheartened to know that any spiritual leader may endorse or accept a man’s total abandonment of responsibility and commitments he made to a wife and kids.
Sai ma is a teacher of wisdom like the dalai Lama
She is a great healer too, I’ve gotten the discshaw healing from one of her pupils. most of the courses are how to heal your life kind of things. If you think sai ma is a cult, then every healer or the dalai lama is a cult. she doesn’t ask to be led blindly, its a persons choice, i’ve never heard her ask for money, people give it out of choice because she’s helped them. I’ve seen the other cults on TV and heard of sexual abuse, and all sorts of other nasty things. Sai ma is a spiritualist at best, hindu mainly.she doesn’t sell herself as a god so cult would not be the word. I know someone on the association and they mostly have their own jobs and help out sai ma by paying for her hotel when she comes here. The courses are a bit pricey, but it’s such a nice talk she does I think it’s worth it. Shes like the Female dalai lama. She doesn’t suck you into something, she gives you wisdom and thats it.
My wife was always interested in Eastern mysticism and she fell into the cult’s clutches at a spiritualist Weekend.
I have lost my wife to Humanity in Unity (HIU). Indian spiritual teacher, Her Holiness Sai Maa Lakshmi Devi who is teaching that the Earth is about to ascend into a new and higher dimension, and those who are spiritually prepared for the change will be moving with it.God help us all.
My husband left me also after becoming involved with HIU, he told me that although we were happily married it was his dharma to follow this path that was revealed to him through deep meditation guided by Sai Maa. It is my understanding that Sai Maa left her husband and children to follow her guru as well. How sad that these individuals seek more to life rather than realize that life IS the path.
Sai Maa was my first spiritual teacher, whom I met in Los Angeles around 1993. She is indeed enlightened and a bonafide guru. She is one of the rare female spiritual leaders acknowledged in India, as you can see by her current Kumbha Mela flyer. She has also been endowed with “Her Holiness” title by the Dalai Lama, which is a very rare occurrence as well. Most gurus leave their families, as did Buddha, because the spiritual calling is much stronger than the 3-dimensional realm. Those who reach high levels of consciousness would not take a million dollars in place of their spiritual experiences — we are here to regain our spiritual heart-minds, not pursue material possessions. I had a problem with her love of money — but to her credit, she admits openly that she loves money. Devotees paid for two (2) $1 million dollar properties in Crestone, Colorado — which is why her workshops became so expensive — but you can blame the stupid accountants and those in charge of her personal affairs on that one. The other problem was her swami, Para-whoever Bramacharya who was a nazi at the Crestone ashram. He went after people, with threats of calling the sheriff, if they did not fall in line with his myopic dictates. He was more worried about getting POA approval for more beds than being a decent human being — which means he was status hungry. Why Sai Maa chose a male instead of a female as resident swami for the ashram, when she endorsed feminine energy as the “new way” is beyond me. Sai Maa is one of the only gurus I’ve known who combines Western Ascended Masters teachings with ancient Hindu tradition. And I’ve witnessed participants become enlightened at every retreat I attended with Sai Maa. She is real but definitely needs to be more humble, in my opinion — my beloved Buddhist rinpoche lived in a beat-up old mobile home and drove an old Toyota — and gave us everything we needed to become enlightened. Sai Maa cleverly doesn’t give tools to devotees to work with to become enlightened in her absence, while she is away on tour. As with most foreign gurus, they take our money back to their own countries and leave us hanging until they come back. Get what you can out of her astounding spiritual presence and be prudent with your money !!
Said Maa takes whatever she wants. Some of her students are being sued because of her stealing funds from the organization. No level of involvement is worth all of her problems. Sai Maa has bouts of radically unskilled behavior. No one ever knows when it will hit. Stay clear of her and her deluded entourage.
Hello!
I will remain anonymous for I have a very close friend in the organization maa runs and I don’t want to make her feel uncomfortable, because I know that if someone from HIU sees my post here they’ll tell my friend and they will go on trying to defend sai maa.
I’ll start with Zhide’s post: “Most gurus leave their families, as did Buddha, because the spiritual calling is much stronger than the 3-dimensional realm.”
First of all, you don’t have to leave your family to follow your spiritual calling. In fact following a guru doesn’t mean at all you are following your spiritual calling. Eating vegetarian and meditating does not mean you are following your true nature, sometimes it is actually detrimental.
3-dimensional realm is called real life. and if you get a handle on that, instead of trying to escape it through reading lots of metaphysical stuff and meditating in groups , which for years may look like you are developing, but in reality you have nothing to show for it, because all of your money is going to your guru and her houses and seminars, and you meditate and eat exactly what she says you should, but you don’t experiment with your own desires. You spend a lot of time fitting yourself in “her” framework. this is not a path of truly knowing yourself and creating life of your dreams. this is a life of creating someone else’s. Simply put – you don’t need anyone to lead you to joyful, fulfilling life. I have found that doing what I want and putting all of the efforts into that and making things happen in MY life is the most fulfilling thing. And from this place I can help others. But never would I help sai ma. I am deeply saddened by how after so many years my friend is not developing however, defending her community saying that they are all so cool and kind, but I have been to their meetings, all the talk about is ma, and what she teaches, which is not at all anything astounding. you can read what she talks about on the internet and in any metaphysical book. She doesn’t teach anything so special or new. Only those who have never been exposed to other Self Development teachings can buy into what she teaches. But it is truly nothing special.
And ye, she does encourage people to leave their families. Why? Because than they are more devoted to her and are less prone to be talked out of giving her everything they have. and then she also teaches that if you have mixed or negative feelings towards your guru that is your own negativity and it is an illusion.
“Those who reach high levels of consciousness would not take a million dollars in place of their spiritual experiences — we are here to regain our spiritual heart-minds, not pursue material possessions. ”
Dear, money is wonderful when used right. I can bet that you are yourself not very wealthy, because then you would know that personal prosperity and simply being able to get yourself a comfortable living IS a part of your fulfilling spiritual existence. We are not here to just meditate, ok, after you are all healed and feel great – then what? then you use it to create a great life for yourself! you own business, travel the world, buy your family cool stuff, help those in need, do WHATEVER you want. not sit and meditate for the rest of your life. unless that is the only thin you want to do. I don’t. in fact I became happier and more transformed after I stopped practicing spirituality as much as I did before and reading about it and started to actually DO something to create the life I wanted for myself and investing every penny and minute of my day into me.
I feel much more spiritual now and connected. IN fact teaching that helped me the most were stating “visualize 5 min a day and then TAKE ACTION” spending a bunch of money on sai ma and wasting your time on so much meditation IMHO is taking time away from yourself. and that is what happened to my friends. She doesn’t date, she feels like she will never be good enough (of course if you compare yourself to this guru magician of emerald city, you will never feel good enough) and she lives a very plain life like all of the HIU people.
For all this years my friend has been with sai ma, has she ever called her for her birthday? has she ever asked her if she needs any help? NO! and she knows her in person.
sai ma always wants you to join their organization and then you have to do all this what they call “sava” which is donating your time and working. which is pure free labor. sai ma never washes her dishes, never does her own laundry, she has people do this for her because she is “HOLLY” and her body needs to be preserved. that just makes me sick. Her own FUND TO PRESERVE HER BODY? what does that mean? very expensive clothes, expensive organic food, first class plain tickets, hotels and yes, very expensive properties she owns. When she doesn’t do ANYTHING. Only blesses people. ok.
“but you can blame the stupid accountants and those in charge of her personal affairs on that one. The other problem was her swami, Para-whoever Bramacharya who was a nazi at the Crestone ashram. He went after people, with threats of calling the sheriff, if they did not fall in line with his myopic dictates. He was more worried about getting POA approval for more beds than being a decent human being — which means he was status hungry. Why Sai Maa chose a male instead of a female as resident swami for the ashram, when she endorsed feminine energy as the “new way” is beyond me”
sai ma is very well aware of what goes on in her organization and that some of those people are not very happy. of course! if you really loved and respected yourself you would dedicate your life to your self. and what YOU want to do and your own gifts. not a guru and those people are telling themselves that serving maa is their life’s purpose. I don’t believe in that. I just can’t. how? do you not have your own lives to create?
Overall hanging out with HIU people I have noticed that none of these people are deeply fulfilled. they “support” each other through “painful transformational times” but they don’t see that their actual pain is caused by following and living for somebody else. And there is always this “do as maa says, maa said, and my teaches and maa told me”. I have seen people getting married to completely wrong people because she recommended. or people just being hypnotized into devoting themselves to her sacrificing their own happiness. and telling themselves that they are unhappy because they are not doing it right according to maa’s teachings. She is not holly at all. she needs to come down to Earth. she is an energy vampire and a money sucking manipulator. and quite delusional as well.
There are much better teachers out there who are much more down to earth and more approachable, less expensive and truly helpful.
She is not at all anything special. In fact we all are. ok?
Sai Maa wants to dupe as many people as possible and take your money. How do well-educated, professional people fall for that kind of guru-worship? Someone should do a sociological study of the phenomenon regarding what makes such people lose their otherwise rational senses. It is curious that so many gurus, cults and New Age scams use the idea of “unity” or the “oneness of humanity” and so on to promote their messages. Lets not forget she is a disciple of Sathya Sai Baba.
I have come to the conclusion that those who attract people to religions that involve relaxation/meditations are aware of how powerful suggestions are while they are in the state of receiving the teachings from their ‘guru’. The words ‘energy vampire’ is an accurate description of what happens. The same kind of phenomena takes place no matter what the group is called and it is usually the leader or guru who benefits the most.
The more educated we are on this type of phenomena the better choices we’ll make and put the ‘money sucking manipulator’ out of business.
From Anonymous of May 26, 2012:
I can confirm the posts following my own. Sai Maa must be stopped!
Cult leaders change their image and that of the group as needed to avoid prosecution and litigation, to increase income, and to recruit a range of members. Cult leaders have an innate ability to attract followers who have the skills and connections that the leaders lack. The longevity of the group is dependent on the willingness of leadership to adapt as needed and preserve the group. Frequently, when illegal or immoral activities are exposed to the public, the cult leader will relocate, sometimes taking followers with her. She will keep a low profile, only to resurface later with a new name, a new front group, and perhaps a new twist on the scam.
Re: letter posted in December 2009
I have read the letter posted to start this blog and I’m wondering if anything has changed with your relative? It can be very disheartening when very little happens to put a stop to the hold they have over people and theft of everything they own.
Is he still a member of the Sai Maa?
I definitely hear what people are saying in this thread, but I think that the majority of what’s being said is not based on any facts. I’m in the community and it has changed my life for the better in more ways than I even knew possible. I didn’t enter as someone with “problems” – I don’t do drugs, I wasn’t out searching for something – I entered as an intrigued, open-minded individual. Today, I am still an intrigued, open-minded individual with a community of friends from all over the world whom I love dearly. Maa’s teachings have only served to make me more loving, compassionate, and joyful. I absolutely adore my family – despite their open skepticism and distrust in Maa. We actually joke about it being a cult. The thing that makes it NOT a cult to me is that no one says “you should avoid all the people you know who aren’t a part of this” or “you must do this and that to be special”. They say “do what you want, act out of love, be mindful and aware of yourself, and know that no matter what Maa loves you”
When it comes to the money stuff, it’s not that much in the grand scheme of things. I look at other stuff I could spend money on that would equal the cost of events, and typically it breaks down to “i could spend this on eating at a restaurant and a new pair of expensive jeans, or I could go hang out and meditate with some of my favorite people and just be joyous”. It’s all about choices.
When it comes to the money stuff.it’s not that much in the grand scheme of things. it’s utterly predicable that you’d be here parroting a very weak defense for your high-life-living guru.
Journey of Profound Healing Just one of many courses
The program is limited to 30 participants.
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5 Journey of Profound Healing over the next few months
5 x $ 148,500 =
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She’s a master, it’s just not for being spiritual. I reckon she is little more than a common criminal. A fauxru who learned her con from a master (con) and now she’s pimping it in Colorado, surfing on being adored and enjoying the shower of gifts from her marks.
My wife gets completely insane (psycopathic and aggressive) when I resist to her trips tof seeing Sai-Maa. We have two children ages of 12 and 14… Our kids and myself seeng my wife’s madness everyday and all we just can do is to praying for her well being and come back to us some day… My wife had attended every Sai-Maa’s sessions and now she quit her job and she pushing me for a divorce….because I could not accept Sai-Maa’s teachings. I believe that Sai-Maa brainwashed my wife for her own benefit (business of course) and she is stealing our happy marriage. We have been married for over 25 years… People who accept Sai-Maa’s teachings believe that they will eventually repeat Sai-Maa’s life path….and she blesses them all….for more money. One of her sessions in Denver Convention Center costs between $2,000 and $5,000…. You should see the crowds of her followers at that session!!! I have never seen so many people on the Avalanche game! And her followers eventually becoming her money slaves….. Now imagine her income….
My wife’s close friend who was also Sai-Maa’s follower just sold her business, sold her house and divorced her husband (they were married for 30 years and had two beautiful daughters). After selling her business and a house, she collected all the money and donated to Sai-Maa… and of course “Her Holiness” took it…. This is what I call brainwashing and stealing!!!!!!!!!!!!! And it sucks that “Her Holiness” cannot be prosecuted because all the donations are done by the people “at their own will”….
You have clearly shown how influence works. Thanks. We can of course create a category on this group and you are free to send us your testimony to post. Then others can be helped !
Sai Maa did learn from the best, non other than the former personal assistant of another Cult leader. She needed help in acquiring more assets for herself, why have a non-profit with a board to oversee your spending when you can form a LLC and keep more money for yourself. Find the right person, get them involved with your organization and $$$$$ starts coming your way, Naples, FL, Boulder, CO….not exactly impoverished cities to base yourself out of. Check out the connection: http://www.corporationwiki.com/Colorado/Boulder/sai-maa-llc/96917889.aspx
http://www.prem-rawat-bio.org/premies/dettmers/dettmers.html
Seems incredible that anyone in this day and age could fall for a guru who claims to be a disciple of Sai Baba.STAY AWAY FROM THIS CULT
SAI MA is very money hungry just like that pedophile Sai Baba was.
How do well-educated, professional people fall for that kind of guru-worship? Someone should do a sociological study of the phenomenon regarding what makes such people lose their otherwise rational senses. It is curious that so many gurus, cults and New Age scams use the idea of “unity” or the “oneness of humanity” and so on to promote their messages. It smacks of totalitarianism. If everyone was to join a particular spiritual group on the premise that “we are all one” with “one vision”, “united” by some grinning guru beaming down on us all, we’d be doomed, if not to genocide, then to eking out some bland existence in a blissed out, corporate-hippy dippy group mind bubble the real world does not impinge upon. Nowheresville.
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